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Story 1: Mr. Magoo aka Attorney General Jeff Sessions Gets A Clue from President Trump — Appoint Special Counsel to Prosecute FISA Abuses and Politically Corrupt Hillary Clinton Email Investigation Now! — Videos —

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A group of 13 Republican lawmakers have signed on to a letter asking Attorney General Jeff Sessions to appoint a second special counsel to investigate concerns they have with the Justice Department and FBI.The lawmakers say this special counsel would look into agency leadership decisions to end the investigation into Hillary Clinton’s unauthorized private email server, the circumstances surrounding the genesis of the Trump-Russia investigation, and allegations in a recently released House Intelligence Committee memo regarding government surveillance of former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page.
 “It’s simple: We’ve learned deeply concerning information on FISA abuses, the dossier, former high-level FBI officials, and more—and it stinks to high heaven. Americans deserve the truth,” tweeted Rep. Mark Meadows, R-N.C., the chair of the House Freedom Caucus and one of the signees of the letter.

Many Republicans in recent months have sounded the alarm about potential bias in the DOJ and FBI.

Exacerbating those concerns, the House Intelligence Committee memo asserted that the “Trump dossier,” which contains salacious and unverified claims about Trump’s ties to Russia, was an “essential” part of the surveillance application to spy on Page. However, the Democratic rebuttal memo, released in redacted form over the weekend, said it “played no role” in the FBI launching its Russia probe, which is now led by special counsel Robert Mueller.

The Democratic memo, however, did leave some other concerns raised by the GOP memo, spearheaded by House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes, R-Calif., unanswered.

While the lawmakers who signed on to the letter say, on balance, the employees of the agencies do admirable work, a special counsel is needed to weed out the bad ones.

“We acknowledge with immense gratitude that nearly every single man and woman in the DOJ and FBI conducts themselves daily with integrity, independence, patriotism, objectivity and commitment to the rule of law,” the lawmakers wrote. “That is why this Special Counsel is of the utmost importance to ensure that these historic, legendary and necessary agencies move forward more respected and effective than ever before.”

 The letter comes one day after Sessions said that his Justice Department’s inspector general will investigate the alleged abuses of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act — a move condemned by President Trump on Wednesday.

“Why is A.G. Jeff Sessions asking the Inspector General to investigate potentially massive FISA abuse,” Trump tweeted. “Will take forever, has no prosecutorial power and already late with reports on Comey etc. Isn’t the I.G. an Obama guy? Why not use Justice Department lawyers? DISGRACEFUL!”

Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, responded to that tweet, questioning why a FISA investigation is needed at all.

“More important question: Why is the AG asking for a FISA investigation at all? DOJ and FBI already said the Nunes memo was inaccurate, misleading and extraordinarily reckless. With no evidence of abuse, only explanation is political pressure,” Schiff

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/13-republicans-ask-jeff-sessions-to-appoint-second-special-counsel-to-investigate-fbi-doj/article/2650335

 

Sessions Has No Choice But To Appoint A Special Counsel To Investigate DOJ, FBI

Americans should be reassured that the federal law enforcement agencies are working to keep America safer rather than focused on revenge against political enemies.

By Mollie Hemingway

It is long past time for Attorney General Jeff Sessions to appoint a special counsel to investigate the possibility of widespread and systematic corruption, obstruction, leaking, and collusion within America’s law enforcement and intelligence agencies. The leadership of the FBI and Department of Justice have made clear, through their ongoing obstruction of congressional investigations and oversight, that these agencies simply can not be trusted to investigate or police themselves.

Robert S. Mueller III was appointed as a special counsel to make sure that any investigation into alleged collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign was independent and impartial. In the same way, it is necessary for an independent special counsel to investigate alleged corruption at the FBI and Department of Justice, so the American public can once again be assured that the federal law enforcement agencies are in fact working to keep America safer rather than focused on getting revenge against political enemies.

To recap, we’ve seen the following startling developments in just the past few days:

  • The revelation that two key FBI agents, Peter Strzok and Lisa Page, sent each other more than 50,000 texts about their work, including regarding the Clinton and Russia probes. Strzok, the former deputy assistant director of the Counterintelligence Division, ran the Clinton investigation and interviewed key witnesses. He was also involved in the Russia investigation.
  • That five months of texts between these agents are missing. The bureau claims, in the latest of strange coincidences affecting the investigation, that a technical error resulted in a failure to capture these important texts.
  • The suspicious timing of the missing texts — from shortly after the election to the day that Mueller was named special counsel. These months were full of leaks from intelligence officials about the Russia probe.
  • That these 50,000-plus texts aren’t even all of their texts, but just those related to the ongoing Office of Inspector General investigation. The FBI and DOJ are not sharing texts that are personal or about other cases. Since the Office of Inspector General hasn’t said it’s reviewing Russia or dossier-related cases, that leaves a lot of texts yet to be disclosed and examined by investigators.
  • Communications about not keeping texts.
  • A text from the day after the 2016 election suggesting the need for the first meeting of a “secret society.”
  • The revelation that a Senate committee has a whistleblower who has shared information about secret off-site meetings.
  • Political considerations in the timing and handling of the Clinton probe.
  • Political considerations in the handling of the Trump probe.
  • Strzok admitting before he joined the Mueller probe, but after he’d worked on the Russia probe for the better part of a year, that to his knowledge there was nothing there.
  • That the “professor” “friend” James Comey leaked classified information to, for the purpose of it being leaked to the media to spur a special counsel, is suddenly claiming to be Comey’s attorney, which can be used as a shield from releasing information.
  • That Comey’s implausible claim to have waited until after interviewing Hillary Clinton to decide to let her off the hook for mishandling classified information is contradicted by additional available evidence.
  • That Attorney General Loretta Lynch only made her claim that she would defer to the FBI on prosecuting Clinton because she knew Comey would let her off, according to Page.
  • The existence of a four-page memo compiled by the House Select Permanent Committee on Intelligence alleging surveillance abuse by the FBI against Trump affiliates.

These revelations are not wild speculation but based on concrete evidence that the FBI and DOJ fought tooth and nail against releasing.

Previous months saw startling allegations about the use of a scurrilous dossier to secure a wiretap against a Trump affiliate, the use of that dossier to brief congressional committees, the leaking of the existence of the dossier despite its lack of corroboration, statements that the FBI probe was an “insurance policy” because “we can’t take that risk” that Trump would be elected, and that the dossier itself was funded by Hillary Clinton and the Democratic National Committee. There were also criminal leaks of top-secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) communications. This to say nothing of the widespread unmasking, distribution, and illegal leaking of surveillance information.

It is vital to a democratic republic that the public have faith in their law enforcement institutions. All of these developments feed the perception that there are two different law enforcement regimes — one for friends, and one for enemies. There are clear signs that Clinton benefited from a different set of rules that applied to her that didn’t apply to anyone else. There are also signs that people in federal agencies improperly used spy powers to spin up investigations and special counsels to go after political enemies.

That can’t happen.

Why A Second Special Counsel?

The current special counsel probably should have been investigating the FBI and DOJ as part of his charge into the Russia probe. Mueller has been on the case since May, and should have seen enough shortly thereafter to be concerned about various agencies’ handling of the probes.

But it also shouldn’t be surprising that he has not done much, if anything, to probe the FBI and DOJ. Mueller is the former head of the FBI and very close to Comey. Nobody can be expected to investigate his own friends and family, and asking Mueller to seriously tackle the problems that have been revealed regarding his friends at his old agency is unrealistic.

Similarly, an investigation into all these allegations can’t be done by a U.S. attorney, because it has to be removed from the oversight of those who have run the department for the last several years, since they will be the ones being investigated.

Schiff’s Case For a Special Counsel

Even Democrats have been making a good case for a special counsel, however inadvertently. When asked on CNN why the American public couldn’t just see the House Intelligence Committee memo alleging surveillance abuses, Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., said Americans couldn’t handle it without knowing the underlying information that was too sensitive to release. He also suggested that public demand to see the memo, which has been high, was actually just another Russian operation. That turned out to be false.

But if it’s true that controversial information about the FBI’s handling of the Russia probe is too sensitive and could be misconstrued — so sensitive that Schiff voted to keep the rest of Congress in the dark about it and is fighting to make sure the public doesn’t see this information — that means it’s important enough to demand a special prosecutor.

The Leakers’ Case For a Special Counsel

As damaging and discrediting news about “potential corruption at highest levels” came out this week, leaks about the Mueller investigation started coming out. These included that FBI Director Christopher Wray reportedly threatened to resign; that Sessions was interviewed by the Mueller probe, that Mueller is ready to interview Trump, that Russian bots are the real culprits behind public demand to see the surveillance memo, that Trump reportedly asked controversial FBI official Andrew McCabe who McCabe voted for, and various other items.

These leaks tend to happen when bad news threatens the Mueller probe. But they’re perhaps ill-advised, only suggesting all the more to the politicized nature of the current investigation. A special counsel should not be seen as a threat to the Mueller probe but as a necessary help.

An investigation into potential corruption will help preserve or restore confidence in the Mueller investigation. If the results of the Mueller investigation are to be taken seriously, these questions have to be addressed. High-ranking FBI agents are in their own words undermining the entire purpose of the Mueller investigation, such as when Strzok said there’s nothing to the Russia probe prior to joining the special counsel team. Or when he had to be kicked off the team because of how his texts pointed to corruption.

Because the Mueller investigation itself was brought about by a Democratic National Committee and Hillary Clinton-funded opposition research document, which the FBI used despite it not being verified, as well as Comey’s leaks of classified information in retaliation for being fired, the entire investigation has a cloud over it. A special counsel could clear the air or provide clarity regarding the trustworthiness of the Mueller probe. A failure to investigate these charges would damage the country’s ability to have any objective investigation into abuses of power in the future.

Does Sessions Care About Charges Of Corruption At DOJ?

Congressional investigators and concerned citizens are growing alarmed. Sen. Lindsey Graham, Sen. Ron Johnson, Rep. Ron DeSantis, Rep. Jim Jordan, Rep. Lee Zeldin, Rep. Mark Meadows, and many other informed members of Congress have called for a second special counsel to deal with allegations of corruption at the Department of Justice.

The political and media arms of the Democratic Party attempt to downplay the scandal, but it’s only getting worse with each new piece of information that is brought to light. The American people need to know that the attorney general cares about the charges, wants to get to the bottom of the problems, and will work to restore the integrity of this important department. The criminalization of politics in this country is undermining confidence in the republic itself.

If there are good explanations for all of these strange coincidences and lapses in judgment, the American people need to be told. If there is systematic corruption, that needs to be learned as well.

A special counsel who is not part of the current club at the top of these agencies should be appointed. The individual needs to be unimpeachable and a person of integrity who has the strength to take on an incalcitrant bureaucracy and establishment. He or she should have experience in investigating and rooting out corruption in bureaucratic agencies.

http://thefederalist.com/2018/01/24/sessions-has-no-choice-but-to-appoint-a-special-counsel-to-investigate-doj-fbi/

 

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NRA turns on Trump: Gun lobby says president’s meeting with lawmakers was ‘great TV but bad policy’ after he suggested taking guns before due process

  • National Rifle Association blasted President Donald Trump’s proposals for gun control during a bipartisan meeting at the White House on Wednesday 
  • Trump heard directly from lawmakers leading the charge for new gun violence prevention measures this afternoon at the White House
  • Wednesday’s session was attended by Reoublicans and Democrats, including Sens. Dianne Feinstein of California and Chris Murphy of Connecticut
  • Listening session is directly tied to a school shooting in Parkland, Florida two weeks ago today that resulted in 17 deaths  
  • Trump has been meeting with stakeholders in the gun control debate for a week 
  • White House says he will offer specific remedies to gun violence after today
  • Was already backing a background check bill in the Senate, as well as legislation that would provide schools with federal funding to conduct trainings 
  • Now says he wants a ‘comprehensive’ background check bill that closes the so-called gun-show loophole

The National Rifle Association on Wednesday blasted President Donald Trump for his proposal to take guns away from dangerous individual even if it violates constitutional rights to due process.

Trump made the remarks during a bipartisan meeting with lawmakers at the White House to discuss safety measures in the wake of last week’s mass shooting at a high school in Florida.

‘While today’s meeting made for great TV, the gun control proposals discussed would make for bad policy that would not keep our children safe,’ NRA spokeswoman Jennifer Baker said in a statement to The Hill.

‘Instead of punishing law-abiding gun owners for the acts of a deranged lunatic our leaders should pass meaningful reforms that would actually prevent future tragedies.’

The National Rifle Association on Wednesday blasted President Donald Trump for his proposal to take guns away from dangerous individual even if it violates constitutional rights to due process

The National Rifle Association on Wednesday blasted President Donald Trump for his proposal to take guns away from dangerous individual even if it violates constitutional rights to due process

Baker said that preventing mass shootings would best be done by addressing the country’s mental health system and boosting background checks so that psychologically ill people are prevented from obtaining a gun.

The NRA spokeswoman said that her organization has always supported policies that promote school safety.

‘Whether you love or hate firearms, we all want to send our children to safe schools and to live in safe communities,’ she said.

But Baker added that this can be done without ‘shifting the focus, blame or burden onto safe, law-abiding gun owners.’

‘Doing everything we can as a nation to address the problem of dangerous people committing heinous acts is not inconsistent with the Second Amendment – the systemic failures of government to keep us safe reinforces the need for the Second Amendment,’ she said.

‘We will continue to support legislative efforts to make our schools and communities safe and oppose gun control schemes that cannot keep us safe and only punish law-abiding Americans.’

Trump angered the NRA earlier on Wednesday, saying he will be giving ‘very serious thought’ to signing legislation that lifts the minimum age for purchasing certain firearms like the AR-15 to 21.

The position is a serious split from the organization, which has been a major backer of Trump’s and most Republicans.

In a listening session with lawmakers on Wednesday, the president acknowledged that his posture wouldn’t be popular with the gun group, but he’ll be ‘giving it a lot of consideration’ anyway.

Trump demanded to know why background check legislation that he wants to use as a vehicle for gun violence prevention measures doesn’t already contain the provision.

‘You know why? Because you’re afraid of the NRA!’ the president told Sen. Pat Toomey, the Republican author of the bipartisan bill, with a laugh.

President Donald Trump (seen right with Senator John Cornyn, the Republican from Texas) said he will be giving 'very serious thought' to signing legislation that lifts the minimum age for purchasing firearms like the AR-15 to 21

President Donald Trump (seen right with Senator John Cornyn, the Republican from Texas) said he will be giving ‘very serious thought’ to signing legislation that lifts the minimum age for purchasing firearms like the AR-15 to 21

'You know why? Because you're afraid of the NRA!' the president told Sen. Pat Toomey, the Republican author of the bipartisan bill, with a laugh

‘You know why? Because you’re afraid of the NRA!’ the president told Sen. Pat Toomey, the Republican author of the bipartisan bill, with a laugh

The Pennsylvania lawmaker explained that five years ago, when the legislation first came for a vote in the Senate, an age restriction never came up.

Toomey also argued that the ‘vast majority’ of teens in his state are non-violent.

‘I know where you’re coming from, and I understand that,’ Trump replied.

But the president made clear that he wants Toomey and cosponsor Joe Manchin, a West Virginia Democrat, to include the measure in the universal background check bill they plan to revive in the Senate.

The measure failed in a Democratically-controlled 2013, even though it had the backing of 54 senators, because it did not reach the upper chamber’s 60-vote threshhold.

That was roughly four months after the horrific slaughter of 20 elementary school children in Newtown, Connecticut.

One lawmaker told Trump on Wednesday not to underestimate the power of the gun lobby as the president said over and over again that he couldn’t understand why action was not taken under the previous administration.

‘They have great power over you people,’ Trump replied. ‘Some of you people are petrified of the NRA.’

The president said he told the Second Amendment group, ‘We have to do what’s right.’

Trump said that he truly believes that the NRA also wants to do ‘what’s right’ for Americans.

‘I’m a big fan of the NRA. These are great people. These are great patriots. They love our country. But that doesn’t mean we have to agree on everything,’ the president told legislators.

Earlier on in the session, Chris Murphy, a Democratic senator from the state that endured the horrible tragedy five years ago that inspired Toomey’s failed background check bill, informed Trump that he would have to take on the NRA if he wanted substantive legislation to pass.

‘There is no other issue out there with the American public like background checks. Ninety-seven percent of Americans want universal background checks. And yet we can’t get it done, there’s nothing else like that. Where it works, people want it and we can’t do it,’ Murphy told the president.

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One lawmaker told Trump on Wednesday not to underestimate the power of the gun lobby as the president said over and over again that he couldn't understand why action was not taken under the previous administration

One lawmaker told Trump on Wednesday not to underestimate the power of the gun lobby as the president said over and over again that he couldn’t understand why action was not taken under the previous administration

Asked if he'd sign legislation making 21 the floor for buying certain firearms, Trump said,'I'll tell you what, I'm going to give it a lot of consideration, and I'm the one bringing it up, and a lot of people don't even want to bring it up because they're afraid to bring it up

Asked if he’d sign legislation making 21 the floor for buying certain firearms, Trump said,’I’ll tell you what, I’m going to give it a lot of consideration, and I’m the one bringing it up, and a lot of people don’t even want to bring it up because they’re afraid to bring it up

Trump rebutted, ‘But you have a different president now.’

To which Murphy said, ‘The reason that nothing has gotten done here is because the gun lobby has had veto power over any legislation that comes before Congress .

‘I wish that wasn’t the case, but it is. If all we end up doing is stuff the gun industry supports than this just isn’t worth it, we’re not going to make a difference,’ he told the Republican president, ‘so I’m glad that you sat down with the NRA, but we will get 60 votes on a bill that looks like the Manchin-Toomey compromise on background checks if you, Mr. President, support it.’

The Connecticut Democrat told Trump: ‘If you come to Congress, if you come to Republicans and say we’re going to do a Manchin-Toomey-like bill to get comprehensive background checks, it will pass.

‘But if this meeting ends up with just sort of vague notions of future compromise than nothing will happen.’

Murphy explained that comprehensive background check legislation would have to bar criminals, people who are very mentally ill and individuals on the terrorist watchlist from purchasing guns.

‘But Mr. President it’s going to have to be you that brings the Republicans to the table on this because, right now, the gun lobby would stop it in its tracks,’ he said.

Trump told him, ‘I like that responsibility Chris, I really do. I think it’s time, it’s time that a president stepped up. I’m talking Democrat and Republican presidents, they haven’t stepped up.’

The president urged lawmakers in the room to come up with compromise legislation that encapsulates universal background checks and strengthens the existing system.

He told them he’d like to see age limits included in the merger, as well.

Asked if he’d sign legislation making 21 the floor for buying certain firearms, Trump said,’I’ll tell you what, I’m going to give it a lot of consideration, and I’m the one bringing it up, and a lot of people don’t even want to bring it up because they’re afraid to bring it up.

‘But I will give very serious thought to it,’ he said.

The president said he wants lawmakers to put together ‘something great.’

The president urged lawmakers in the room to come up with compromise legislation that encapsulates universal background checks and strengthens the existing system

The president urged lawmakers in the room to come up with compromise legislation that encapsulates universal background checks and strengthens the existing system

Wednesday was the first time that Trump heard from federal lawmakers leading the charge for new gun violence prevention measures in person since the Parkland massacre

Wednesday was the first time that Trump heard from federal lawmakers leading the charge for new gun violence prevention measures in person since the Parkland massacre

At one point, Sen. Dianne Feinstein, the Democrat from California, was elated when it appeared that Trump expressed support for gun control measures for which she has long advocated.

During the meeting, Feinstein’s Democratic colleague, Sen. Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota, proposed expanded background checks aimed at reducing domestic violence.

Trump replied that Klobuchar’s suggestion should be added to the bipartisan Toomey-Manchin bill.

Then the president turned to Feinstein and said she ‘could add what you have also…into the bill.’

Feinstein then appeared giddy – nearly jumping out of her seat, according to the San Francisco Chronicle.

‘Joe, are you ready?’ Feinstein then asked Manchin.

Then Trump chimed in to back up Feinstein.

‘Joe, can you do that? Can you add some of the things?’ Trump asked Manchin.

‘We’re going to get it passed,’ the president said.

During the meeting, Feinstein pressed Trump to endorse an assault weapons ban, but Trump told her she needed to work it out with her colleagues.

He would not go beyond his support for the age restrictions, background checks and concealed carry permits for teachers trained to wield firearms.

Making a reference to his proposal to allowed teachers to pack heat, Trump said, ‘To me something great, is where you stop it from happening, and I think there’s only one way.’

If lawmakers feel that’s the wrong way to attack the problem, Trump told them, ;I want a very strong counter punch.’

Trump predicted a ‘very successful vote’ this time around on gun control legislation.

‘Some people aren’t going to like that, but you’re going to have to look at that very seriously,’ he said, returning to age limits. ‘And I will sign it, and I will call whoever you want me to if I like what you’re doing, and I think I like what you’re doing already, but you can add to it.

‘But you have to be very, very powerful on background checks – don’t be shy – very strong on mentally ill, you have to be very very strong on that, and don’t worry about bump stock, we’re getting rid of it, I mean you don’t have to complicate the bill by adding another two paragraphs.’

The president claimed once again that his administration would be banning the firearms accessory that it plans to recategorize as a machine gun.

‘We’re getting rid of it. I’ll do that myself because I’m able to. Fortunately we’re able to do that without going through Congress,’ he asserted.

‘I DON’T KNOW WHY I WASN’T INVITED’: President Donald Trump will heard directly from lawmakers leading the charge for new gun violence prevention measures this afternoon at the White House…yet Florida’s Democratic senator, Bill Nelson, wasn’t invited

Wednesday was the first time that Trump heard from federal lawmakers leading the charge for new gun violence prevention measures in person since the Parkland massacre.

In addition to Machin, Toomey, Feinstein and Murphy, Sen. John Cornyn, the GOP whip in the Senate, and Florida Sen. Marco Rubio also attended.

Cornyn described President Trump’s meeting about guns today as ‘fascinating television’ and ‘surreal.’

‘My takeaway is that we like to start with background checks and build from there and see where we can get consensus,’ the Texas Republican said.

Cornyn, the Senate’s whip who was seated next to Trump during the meeting, added that rolling multiple gun bills into one was ‘easier said than done.’

The Sunshine State’s Democratic senator, Bill Nelson, says he was not invited.

A White House spokesperson did not respond to DailyMail.com’s request for comment on the snub. 

A chagrined Nelson told reporters Wednesday afternoon that he was not invited to the president’s chat today with legislators at the White House.

‘I don’t know why I wasn’t invited,’ he said, according to ABC News. ‘And of course that doesn’t foster bipartisanship when you’re trying to solve a problem.’

Trump has been holding listening sessions with parents, students, teachers, state and local officials, law enforcement officers and other stakeholders in the gun control debate, including the National Rifle Association, in the weeks since the Marjory Stoneman massacre.

Yesterday, the White House promised to unveil a set of ‘school safety’ recommendations later this week that will include specific policy initiatives.

The president was already supporting legislation that would incentivize states and agencies to fully comply with existing federal background check mandates. His White House also endorsed a bill this week that funds gun violence prevention training for teachers, law enforcement and students.

Trump last week directed his attorney general to find a way to regulate bump stocks, claiming this week that regardless of what Congress has to say about the matter he’s ‘getting rid’ of the accessory that manipulates semiautomatic rifles.

Other suggestions the president has made had been just that, with the White House pledging hardened stances on Tuesday by the end of the week.

Among those: the proposal to raise the minimum age for some gun purchases and a proposition to allow upwards of 700,000 teachers to carry concealed weapons.

Neither of the proposed remedies to gun violence was gaining traction on Capitol Hill this week as Congress returned from a week-long hiatus.

Sarah Sanders denies that Trump softened stance on gun age limit

A top GOP congressional aide told DailyMail.com on Tuesday that the prospects are ‘pretty dim,’ for age limits that could be why the president appeared to be backing away from it in remarks over the past few days.

‘That proposal won’t get a lot of traction in Congress,’ the source said.

Trump did not put forward the proposal during at Friday speech before conservative activists, and he did not bring it up Monday at a bipartisan meeting with governors at the White House, where gun violence was the top talker during a televised session.

Sources familiar with the White House’s discussions with leadership on Capitol Hill told CNN later that Trump was seemingly moving away from his position.

A senior congressional aide told DailyMail.com that discussions about the president’s proposals, like allowing teachers to pack heat, were still in their early stages, with Congress having been out of session last week and only just returning on Monday to Washington.

Furthermore, the House will be out from today on as the late evangelical pastor Billy Graham lies in honor in the U.S. Capitol.

The source said that the basic posture of the House is to see what can pass in the GOP-controlled Senate, which is focused this week on nominations.

House Republicans have already passed legislation to strengthen the existing background check system that it paired with a concealed carry provision. The Senate version of the background check bill has lingered in the Senate.

Trump informed GOP Rep. Steve Scalise, the Republican Party’s top vote counter in the House, on Wednesday that the measure permitting concealed carry reciprocity between states would have to be cut from the bill now in order to get the base background check bill through the more liberal Senate.

‘Let it be a separate bill,’ he warned the GOP leader. ‘If you add concealed carry to this, you’ll never get it passed.’

Trump’s administration had cautiously endorsed the Senate legislation that’s sponsored by Murphy and Cornyn.

On Monday the bill hit a roadblock in the upper chamber, though, as conservative senator Mike Lee opposed the measure and Democratic senators pushed for more aggressive gun control legislation.

The NRA does not support new age restrictions on firearms sales and its spokeswoman suggested Sunday that Trump was not firmly committed to his position

The NRA does not support new age restrictions on firearms sales and its spokeswoman suggested Sunday that Trump was not firmly committed to his position

Democrats want to Congress pass legislation requiring background checks on all firearms sales, eliminating the so-called gun show loophole.

Trump has said he favors comprehensive legislation, but the White House had refused to take a position on universal background checks prior to Trump’s assertion on Wednesday that he supports them.

‘We’d have to see what it looks like and review that before we make that determination,’ press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said Monday.

Sanders was equally non-committal on Tuesday in her daily briefing when questioned about the president’s support for the bill put together by Manchin and Toomey.

‘The President, as I’ve said, expects to meet with a number of lawmakers tomorrow from both sides of the aisle, and we’ll have some more information about specifics after that,’ she asserted.

The Trump spokeswoman insisted Tuesday, as she did Monday, that the president remains supportive of the proposition to make sales of the AR-15 and other automatic rifles 21 and over, despite the National Rifle Association’s adamant opposition to the measure.

‘He knows that everybody doesn’t necessarily agree,’ Sanders explained. ‘We’re not going to get into the details on the specifics of what we will propose.’

On Monday, Sanders said that Trump had not ‘downgraded’ his proposal.

‘The president is still supportive of the concept,’ she said, as a weekend meeting with the National Rifle Association that was kept off Trump’s public schedule came to light.

The NRA does not support new age restrictions on firearms sales and its spokeswoman suggested Sunday that Trump was not firmly committed to his position.

‘These are just things that he’s discussing right now,’ spokesman Dana Loesch said during an appearance on ABC News.

Sanders told reporters on Monday that it ‘would be ridiculous’ to intimate that Trump had been influenced by the powerful gun group that opposes the restrictions ‘considering the number of individuals he’s met with that come from both the far left to the far right, and a lot of those in between.’

She said Trump plans to continue his talks with a lawmakers this week in meetings at the White House and would ultimately base his decision on what is outlined in legislative text.

‘In concept, the President still supports it, but in terms of legislation, we’d need to see what that looks like before we weigh in further,’ Sanders said.

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Why did Hope Hicks resign? Even the good option looks bad.

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Officials announced on Feb. 28 that Hope Hicks will resign. She had been White House communications director since Sept. 2017. 

White House Communications Director Hope Hicks is resigning less than six months after officially taking that job on a permanent basis. And according to a timeline provided by the reporter who broke the story, the New York Times’s Maggie Haberman, Hicks spent a substantial portion of her tenure — perhaps as much as half of it — considering leaving.

Hope Hicks departure is NOT about yesterday’s hearing, per multiple sources. She had planned it before, had been thinking about it for months. She had informed a very small number of people prior to Hill hearing that she planned to leave.

It was tempting to draw a line — as Iand others speculated about — between Hicks’s exit and two controversies: Her involvement in the Rob Porter scandal as both communications director and his girlfriend, and her House Intelligence Committee testimony Tuesday in which she admitted to telling white lies for Trump. If nothing else, the timing is suspicious for a resignation to come so close in proximity to each of those two things.

But consider the alternative. The alternative is that someone who has been in the White House for 13 months started thinking about leaving well shy of a year on the staff — and shortly after rising to one of the top jobs. The point: Regardless of which one it was, it doesn’t portend good things or stability in the White House moving forward.

It’s no secret the White House has become something of a revolving door for staff. Hicks was the fifth person designated as communications director and the third to hold the job on a non-interim basis. Trump has also already parted ways with a press secretary, a national security adviser, a chief strategist, a chief of staff (with his second, John Kelly, apparently on thin ice) and plenty of others.

Hicks was supposed to be different. Perhaps his longest-serving aide — dating back to before the campaign — she was someone who understood Trump and seemed to command his implicit trust. The White House would be a stressful job for anyone, but Hicks at least benefited from the kind of strong working relationship with Trump that other figures — especially those from the GOP establishment — clearly did not have.

She was not as familiar with politics as others, but in a White House in which conflicts with the boss are often the cause for early departures, Hicks made sense as a potential long-termer. Like Reince Priebus, Stephen K. Bannon, Sean Spicer and the rest, though, she has now proven a short-timer. Even fellow Trump loyalists like Keith Schiller have found the White House to be tough long-term employment.

Whether it’s because of exhaustion in dealing with Trump or the exhaustion in dealing with Washington politics for outsiders like Hicks, or a combination, it seems Trump will have a difficult time maintaining anything resembling a core staff organization. And for a president who has struggled with consistency and is thought to be heavily reliant upon the last person he has spoken to, that’s likely to lead to even more volatility.

We may yet learn more about Hicks’s departure in the days to come. Nothing about it, though, suggests stability is over the horizon for the White House. If anything was stability for Trump, it was Hicks.

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Turnover, investigations have Trump administration adrift

WASHINGTON (AP) — Rattled by two weeks of muddled messages, departures and spitting matches between the president and his own top officials, Donald Trump is facing a shrinking circle of trusted advisers and a staff that’s grim about any prospect of a reset.

Even by the standards of Trump’s often chaotic administration, the announcement of Hope Hicks’ imminent exit spread new levels of anxiety across the West Wing and cracked open disputes that had been building since the White House’s botched handling of domestic violence allegations against a senior aide late last month.

Hicks’ departure comes as special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation appears to be circling the Oval Office, with prosecutors questioning Trump associates about both his business dealings before he became president and his actions in office, according to people with knowledge of the interviews. Jared Kushner, Trump’s son-in-law and senior adviser, has also been weakened after being stripped of his high-level security clearance amid revelations about potential conflicts of interest.

Communications Director Hope Hicks, one of President Trump’s most trusted aides, abruptly announced her resignation Wednesday. Julie Pace says Hicks is under the political magnifying glass, which might have affected her decision. (Feb. 28)

The biggest unknown is how the mercurial Trump will respond to Hicks’ departure and Kushner’s more limited access, according to some of the 16 White House officials, congressional aides and outside advisers interviewed by The Associated Press, most of whom insisted on anonymity in order to disclose private conversations and meetings. Besides Kushner and his wife, presidential daughter Ivanka Trump, most remaining White House staffers were not part of Trump’s close-knit 2016 campaign. One person who speaks to Trump regularly said the president has become increasingly wistful about the camaraderie of that campaign.

Rarely has a modern president confronted so many crises and controversies across so many fronts at the same time. After 13 months in office, there’s little expectation among many White House aides and outside allies that Trump can quickly find his footing or attract new, top-flight talent to the West Wing. And some Republican lawmakers, who are eying a difficult political landscape in November’s midterm elections, have begun to let private frustrations ooze out in public.

“There is no standard operating practice with this administration,” said Sen. John Thune of South Dakota. “Every day is a new adventure for us.”

Thune’s comments described the White House’s peculiar rollout Thursday of controversial new aluminum and steel tariffs. White House aides spent Wednesday night and Thursday morning scrambling to steer the president away from an announcement on an unfinished policy, with even Kelly in the dark about Trump’s plans. Aides believed they had succeeded in getting Trump to back down and hoped to keep television cameras away from an event with industry executives so the president couldn’t make a surprise announcement. But Trump summoned reporters into the Cabinet Room anyway and declared that the U.S. would levy penalties of 25 percent on steel and 10 percent on aluminum imports.

Some of Trump’s populist supporters cheered the move. The stock market, which Trump looks to for validation for his economic policies, plunged.

Some officials are bracing for more departures. On Thursday, NBC News reported that the White House was preparing to replace national security adviser H.R. McMaster as early as next month.

White House Sarah Huckabee Sanders told “Fox & Friends” on Friday that “Gen. McMaster isn’t going anywhere.”

As for talk of a White House in upheaval, Sanders pointed out the tax cuts passed late last year: “If they want to call it chaos, fine, but we call it success and productivity and we’re going to keep plugging along.”

For those remaining on the job, the turbulence has been relentless. Just two weeks ago, Kelly, the general brought in to bring order, was himself on the ropes for his handling of the domestic violence allegations against a close aide, Rob Porter. Trump was said to be deeply irritated by the negative press coverage of Kelly’s leadership during the controversy and considering firing him. But first, the president planned to give his chief of staff a chance to defend himself before reporters in the briefing room and gauge the reaction, according to two people with knowledge of the episode. The briefing, however, was canceled after the school shooting in Parkland, Florida. Kelly’s standing has stabilized somewhat as media attention to the Porter issue has waned.

Graphic shows key departures from Trump administration.

One Kelly backer said the chief of staff’s standing remains tenuous, in part because of his clashes with Kushner over policy, personnel and White House structure. The tensions were exacerbated by Kelly’s decision to downgrade Kushner’s security clearance because the senior adviser had not been permanently approved for the highest level of access.

Kushner and Ivanka Trump, who also serves as a senior White House adviser, have been frustrated by Kelly’s attempt to restrict their access to the president, and they perceive his new crackdown on clearances as a direct shot at them, according to White House aides and outside advisers. Kelly, in turn, has grown frustrated with what he views as the couple’s freelancing. He blames them for changing Trump’s mind at the last minute and questions what exactly they do all day, according to one White House official and an outside ally.

The ethics questions dogging Kushner relate to both his personal financial interests and his dealings in office with foreign officials. Intelligence officials expressed concern that Kushner’s business dealings were a topic of discussion in conversations he was having with foreign officials about foreign policy issues of interest to the U.S. government, a former intelligence official said. Separately, The New York Times reported that two companies made loans worth more than half a billion dollars to Kushner’s family real estate firm after executives met with Kushner at the White House.

Allies of Kushner and Ivanka Trump insist they have no plans to leave the White House in the near future. As for Kelly, he appeared to hint at his tough spot during an event Thursday at the Department of Homeland Security, where he served as secretary before departing for the White House.

“The last thing I wanted to do was walk away from one of the great honors of my life, being the secretary of homeland security,” he said at the agency’s 15th anniversary celebration in Washington. “But I did something wrong and God punished me, I guess.”

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Associated Press writers Kevin Freking and Catherine Lucey contributed to this report.

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Story 1: Lying Lunatic Left Gun Grabbers Blame Gun Violence (Nonexistent) and Not Human Violence (Real), Trump and Talk Radio on The Millennial Mass Murderer, Dylann Storm Roof,  in Charleston, South Carolina Church Killings of Nine Instead of Drugs and Mental Illness — Videos

Charleston, S.C., shooting suspect Dylann Storm Roof, second from left, is escorted from the Shelby Police Department in Shelby, N.C., Thursday, June 18, 2015. Roof is a suspect in the shooting of several people Wednesday night at the historic The Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church in Charleston, S.C. (AP Photo/Chuck Burton)

Charleston, S.C., shooting suspect Dylann Storm Roof, second from left, is escorted from the Shelby Police Department in Shelby, N.C., Thursday, June 18, 2015. Roof is a suspect in the shooting of several people Wednesday night at the historic The Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church in Charleston, S.C. (AP Photo/Chuck Burton)

Charleston, S.C., shooting suspect Dylann Storm Roof, center, is escorted from the Sheby Police Department in Shelby, N.C., Thursday, June 18, 2015. Roof is a suspect in the shooting of several people Wednesday night at the historic The Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church in Charleston, S.C. (AP Photo/Chuck Burton)

Charleston, S.C., shooting suspect Dylann Storm Roof, center, is escorted from the Sheby Police Department in Shelby, N.C., Thursday, June 18, 2015. Roof is a suspect in the shooting of several people Wednesday night at the historic The Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church in Charleston, S.C. (AP Photo/Chuck Burton)

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Dylann Roof: Charleston Church Shooting | True News

Nine people are dead after shooting which occurred 9pm on Wednesday at the Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church in Charleston, South Carolina. The congregation, established in 1816, is one of the oldest African American churches in the United States.

Gunman Dylann Roof was attending a bible study meeting at the church and told the worshipers, “I have to do it. You rape our women and you’re taking over our country and you have to go.”

One woman was specifically spared as Roof said, “I’m not going to shoot you because I want you to tell everyone what happened.”

Stefan Molyneux examines the news story, what is known about Dylann Roof, how this incident could have been prevented, incomprehensible parenting, false rape statistics, violence in Rhodesia/Zimbabwe, the call for gun control, the danger of SSRIs and a plea for an honest conversation about race in America.

Best 7 minutes on gun control I have ever seen!

In this segment of his Virtual State of the Union, the Virtual President talks about why politicians want to talk about gun control rather than crime control, and delivers the factual evidence and historical truths that make the case for the Second Amendment self-evident.

Dr Susan Gratia-Hupp – Survivor of the 1991 Kileen TX Lubys Shooting Massacre

Hupp and her parents were having lunch at the Luby’s Cafeteria in Killeen in 1991 when the Luby’s massacre commenced. The gunman shot 50 people and killed 23, including Hupp’s parents. Hupp later expressed regret about deciding to remove her gun from her purse and lock it in her car lest she risk possibly running afoul of the state’s concealed weapons laws; during the shootings, she reached for her weapon but then remembered that it was “a hundred feet away in my car.” Her father, Al Gratia, tried to rush the gunman and was shot in the chest. As the gunman reloaded, Hupp escaped through a broken window and believed that her mother, Ursula Gratia, was behind her. Actually however, her mother went to her mortally-wounded husband’s aid and was then shot in the head.

As a survivor of the Luby’s massacre, Hupp testified across the country in support of concealed-handgun laws. She said that if there had been a second chance to prevent the slaughter, she would have violated the Texas law and carried the handgun inside her purse into the restaurant. She testified across the country in support of concealed handgun laws, and was elected to the Texas House of Representatives in 1996. The law was signed by then-Governor George W. Bush.

Breaking News: Gov. Abbott sign Texas Open Carry Law June 2015

Texas ‘Open Carry’ Law Passes, Allowing Guns in Holsters on the Street

Charleston shooting Suspect, Dylann Storm Roof, in police custody

Dylann Storm Roof, the 21-year-old white male allegedly behind the shooting of nine African-Americans at the Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church Wednesday night in Charleston, SC, was arrested by law enforcement on Thursday morning. Manila Chan has more on the details and what the authorities know at this time.

Dylann Storm Roof Captured by NC Police, Charleston Shooting Suspect Escorting VIDEO

Daily Show’s Jon Stewart on Charleston shooting: ‘This was a terrorist attack’

Citizen With Concealed Weapons Permit Shoots and Kills Attacker

John Lott: More Guns, Less Crime

Gun Regulation: U.S Gun Homicides vs. Japan

John Lott: More Guns, Less Crime book interview on CSPAN

Nine killed in South Carolina Charleston ‘hate crime’ shooting

Dylann Storm Roof Was ‘Wild,’ Not Violent, Took Drugs, Classmate of Charleston Shooting Suspect Says

President Obama makes statement on Charleston mass shooting

President Barack Obama expressed his sorrow about a mass shooting in Charleston, South Carolina that killed nine people during a news conference on Thursday. Speaking about the tragedy, the president also spoke about the need to take another look at gun violence in the nation.

Carolina Church Shooting: Obama gets it wrong–Guns SAVE Lives!

PJTV: Wake Up Obama. Drugs Are the Problem, Not Guns

Fox News Host ‘Surprise’ as Obama ‘Quick’ Invoke Gun Control on Charleston Mass Shooting

Donald Trump rails against immigrants in presidential campaign launch

Hillary Clinton ATTACKS Donald Trump Connects Negative Remarks on Mexico to MURDERS in Charleston

Hillary Clinton Takes a Veiled Shot at Donald Trump

Donald Trump on his campaign speech comments that some Mexican immigrants are ‘rapists’

Donald Trump Presidential speech announcement 2016 – Donald Trump Bashes Mexico Obamacare

Charleston Shooting: What They’re Not Telling You

The Alex Jones Show (1st HOUR-VIDEO Commercial Free) Thursday June 18 2015: #CharlestonShooting

News Behind the News: John Lott on America’s Gun Laws

Top 10 Infamous Mass Shootings in the U.S.

Top 10 Infamous Mass Shootings Outside the U.S.

CHARLESTON SHOOTER WAS ON DRUG LINKED TO VIOLENT OUTBURSTS

Dylann Storm Roof was taking habit-forming drug suboxone
Charleston Shooter Was on Drug Linked to Violent Outbursts

by PAUL JOSEPH WATSON | JUNE 18, 2015


Charleston shooter Dylann Storm Roof was reportedly taking a drug that has been linked with sudden outbursts of violence, fitting the pattern of innumerable other mass shooters who were on or had recently come off pharmaceutical drugs linked to aggression.

According to a CBS News report, earlier this year when cops searched Roof after he was acting suspiciously inside a Bath and Body Works store, they found “orange strips” that Roof told officers was suboxone, a narcotic that is used to treat opiate addiction.

Suboxone is a habit-forming drug that has been connected with sudden outbursts of aggression.
Another poster on the Drugs.com website tells the story of how his personality completely changed as a result of taking suboxone.A user on the MD Junction website relates how her husband “became violent, smashing things and threatening me,” after just a few days of coming off suboxone.

The individual relates how he became “nasty” and “violent” just weeks into taking the drug, adding that he would “snap” and be mean to people for no reason.

Another poster reveals how his son-in-law “completely changed on suboxone,” and that the drug sent him into “self-destruct mode.”

A user named ‘Jhalloway’ also tells the story of how her husband’s addiction to suboxone was “ruining our life.”

A poster on a separate forum writes about how he became “horribly aggressive” towards his partner after taking 8mg of suboxone.

A website devoted to horror stories about the drug called SubSux.com also features a post by a woman whose husband obtained a gun and began violently beating his 15-year-old son after taking suboxone.

According to a Courier-Journal report, suboxone “is increasingly being abused, sold on the streets and inappropriately prescribed” by doctors. For some users, it is even more addictive than the drugs it’s supposed to help them quit.

As we previously highlighted, virtually every major mass shooter was taking some form of SSRI or other pharmaceutical drug at the time of their attack, including Columbine killer Eric Harris, ‘Batman’ shooter James Holmes and Sandy Hook gunman Adam Lanza.

As the website SSRI Stories profusely documents, there are literally hundreds of examples of mass shootings, murders and other violent episodes that have been committed by individuals on psychiatric drugs over the past three decades.

Pharmaceutical giants who produce drugs like Zoloft, Prozac and Paxil spend around $2.4 billion dollars a year on direct-to-consumer television advertising every year. By running negative stories about prescription drugs, networks risk losing tens of millions of dollars in ad revenue, which is undoubtedly one of the primary reasons why the connection is habitually downplayed or ignored entirely.

http://www.infowars.com/charleston-shooter-was-on-drug-linked-to-violent-outbursts/

White suspect in massacre at black South Carolina church charged, held in jail

5 Things the Gun Grabbers Apparently Don’t Understand

John Hawkins

“I’m not a gun owner and, as I think as is the case for the more than half the people in the country who also aren’t gun owners, that means that for me guns are alien. In the current rhetorical climate people seem not to want to say: I think guns are kind of scary and don’t want to be around them.” — Josh Marshall

“A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity.”

~ Sigmund Freud

Sorry, but your Second Amendment rights no longer apply because liberals like Josh Marshall tinkle on themselves every time they come within fifty feet of a gun. This is really what the debate on gun control in America comes down to in the end: people who lose nothing if guns are banned because they don’t use them demanding that everyone else be disarmed. Meanwhile, trying to reason with gun control advocates is like arguing with a four year old about whether her imaginary friend is real or not. It doesn’t matter how clearly you prove your case; she’ll be pouring her pal tea two minutes after you’ve left the room. Speaking of imaginary…

1) A “gun free zone” won’t keep bad people with guns away: The basic problem with a “gun free zone” is that anyone you can’t trust with a gun will bring it in anyway while it will cause the people you’d want armed in a dangerous situation to leave their weapons behind. If this concept actually worked, we’d just train all of our soldiers in Jiu-jitsu and then we’d declare everywhere we sent them to be a “gun free zone.” Admittedly, Mortal Kombat: Afghanistan sounds like it would be an amazing movie, but someone needs to inform Democrats that the world doesn’t really work this way.

2) Criminals and lunatics don’t obey gun laws: The belief that someone who’s planning to go on a killing spree is going to turn in a gun because it’s made illegal is almost as nuts as going on the killing spree. Yet, the gun grabbers in the Democrat Party operate on the assumption that nut jobs like Adam Lanza or a gangbanger who sells crack for a living is going to get rid of a high-capacity magazine if Congress says he can’t have it. That’s like a prohibitionist who gets upset about alcoholism and deals with the problem by demanding that all the people without drinking problems have to be kept away from booze.

3) We already have somewhere between 200-300 million guns in this country: Adding to the last point, ever heard this old joke?

A drunk loses the keys to his house and is looking for them under a lamppost. A policeman comes over and asks what he’s doing.“I’m looking for my keys” he says. “I lost them over there”.

The policeman looks puzzled. “Then why are you looking for them all the way over here?”

“Because the light is so much better”.

If there were no already existing guns in America, gun control could conceivably help keep weaponry out of the hands of criminals and mass murderers. However, in a nation that’s already armed to the teeth, the next Adam Lanza, Jared Loughner, Tookie Williams or Mumia Abu-Jamal has already got his gun and new laws will only disarm law abiding Americans.

4) Gun owners aren’t required to explain a “need” for our Second Amendment rights: Why do gun owners “need” their guns? The same reason that Rosa Parks “needed” her seat at the front of the bus. In other words, it’s our constitutional right; so kiss off! If you need more of an explanation than that, why does California “need” to have its votes counted in the next presidential election? Why do we “need” so many liberal newspapers? Why not close a few? Why do movie stars “need” to make so much money for their films? Why don’t we confiscate it? What was it that Ann Coulter said?

“Free people are not in the habit of providing reasons why they ‘need’ something simply because the government wants to ban it. That’s true of anything — but especially something the government is constitutionally prohibited from banning, like guns.”

5) You’re not fooling us: Liberals like to think they’re smarter than everyone else, but they’re as transparent as glass to anyone who’s paying attention. That’s why gun sales have blown up like a can of shaving cream in a microwave. If Barack Obama, Diane Feinstein, Nancy Pelosi, Joe Biden and the rest of the Democrat gun grabbers in Congress could get away with it, they would ban and confiscate every gun in America tomorrow — and people know it. Anything short of, “Nobody is allowed to own a firearm except the government,” is unacceptable to them and that’s why they always seem so ghoulishly pleased after tragedies like the Gabrielle Giffords shooting or the Newtown massacre. Everybody else is thinking of the victims, while they’re twirling their mustaches Snidely-Whiplash-style and repeating, “Never let a serious crisis go to waste,” to each other.

http://townhall.com/columnists/johnhawkins/2013/03/05/5-things-the-gun-grabbers-apparently-dont-understand-n1525945/page/full

List of rampage killers

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Number of incidents listed
Africa/Middle East 85
Americas 108
Asia 127
Europe 94
Oceania/Maritime Southeast Asia 124
Workplace 102
Educational settings 89
Hate crimes 28
Home intruders 93
Familicides – U.S. 120
Familicides – Europe 103
Familicides – Rest of world 155
Vehicular 20
Grenade 21
Other 46
Total 1315

This is a partial list of rampage killings. It is further divided into several subsections.

This list should contain every case with at least one of the following features:

  • Rampage killings with six or more dead (excluding the perpetrator)
  • Rampage killings with at least four people killed and a double digit number of victims (dead plus injured)
  • Rampage killings with at least a dozen victims (dead plus injured)

In the tables that follow, the “W” column indicates the weapon, or weapons, used. Details are listed in the Annotation section.

Africa and the Middle East

Only the first 15 entries are shown here. For the entire list see:Africa and the Middle East

This section contains cases that occurred in Africa and the Middle East. Not included are school massacres, workplace killings, hate crimes or familicides, which form their own categories.

Perpetrator Date Year Location Country Killed Injured W Additional Notes Ref.
1. Unek, William Feb. 11 1954
1957
Mahagi
Malampaka
Belgian Congo Belgian Congo
 Tanganyika
21
36
?
?
 M
FMA
Killed
2. Komakech, Richard June 26 1994 Kampala Uganda Uganda
26
13
F Killed by victim’s father [1]
3. Unknown March 25/26 1994 Ta’izz Yemen Yemen
22
?
F Shot by police [2]
4. Unknown Police Officer April 15 1983 Asureti Uganda Uganda
21
?
F Committed suicide [3]
5. Omar Abdul Razeq Abdullah Rifai, 28 Aug. 21 2013 Meet al-Attar Egypt Egypt
15
?
F Shot dead
Killed several people in a family feud in 2008
[4]
6. Unknown Soldier Nov. 6 1995 Nshili Rwanda Rwanda
14–17
19
FM Committed suicide [5]
7. Two Unknown Men 1936 Aksum Turkey Turkey
14
3
FM Both were killed [6]
8. Khumalo, Banda, 38 Dec. 4 1977 Bulawayo Rhodesia Rhodesia
13
16
F Shot by police [7]
9. Ogwang, Alfred, 28 Dec. 26 1994 Kamwenge Uganda Uganda
13
14
F Convicted [8]
10. Fekadu Nasha May 12 2013 Bahir Dar Ethiopia Ethiopia
12–18
2
F Died [9]
11. Mogo May 12 1929 Kitale East Africa Protectorate Kenya
12
1
 M Sentenced to death
12. Obwara, Lazaro, 55 July 28 1950 Kampala Flag of the Uganda Protectorate.svg Uganda
12
0
 M Arrested [10]
13. Ben Jebir, 28 March 25 1985 Fahs Tunisia Tunisia
12
?
F Committed suicide
Killed an unborn child
[11]
14. Vukwana, Bulelani, 29 Feb. 9 2002 East London South Africa South Africa
11
6
F Committed suicide
15. Abdullah Saleh Zaid al-Kohali, 26 May 30 2008 Bait al-Aqari Yemen Yemen
10
15
F Sentenced to death and executed [12]

Americas

Only the first 15 entries are shown here. For the entire list see:Americas

This section contains cases that occurred in the Americas.

Not included are school massacres, workplace killings, hate crimes or familicides, which form their own categories.

Perpetrator Date Year Location Country Killed Injured W Additional Notes Ref.
1. Delgado Morales, Campo Elías, 52 Dec. 4 1986 Bogotá  Colombia
29
12
FMA Shot by police
2. Hennard, George Pierre, 35 Oct. 16 1991 Killeen, TX  USA
23
20
F V Committed suicide
3. Huberty, James Oliver, 41 July 18 1984 San Diego, CA  USA
21
19
F Shot by police
4. Ferreira de França, Genildo, 27 May 21/22 1997 Santo Antônio dos Barreiros  Brazil
14
3
F Committed suicide or shot by police [13]
5. Wong, Jiverly Antares, 41 April 3 2009 Binghamton, NY  USA
13
4
F Committed suicide
6. Unruh, Howard Barton, 28 Sep. 6 1949 Camden, NJ  USA
13
3
F Found mentally unfit to stand trial
7. Holmes, James Eagan, 24 (suspect) July 20 2012 Aurora, CO  USA
12
62
F E Suspect arrested, trial pending
8. Pough, James Edward, 42 June 17/18 1990 Jacksonville, FL  USA
11
6
F V Committed suicide
9. Lozano Velásquez, Juan de Jesús, 26 June 24 2000 Bogotá  Colombia
11
5
F Sentenced to 40 years in prison [14]
10. Cáceres, Gregorio, 50 Feb. 18 1942 Trujillo  Venezuela
11
4
 M Killed [15]
11. Flores, Oscar, 23 July 31 2005 San Jerónimo de Juárez  Mexico
11
2
FM Killed by angry mob or shot by police [16]
12. Unknown Dec. 18 1936 Monte Aprazível  Brazil
10–16
?
F Arrested [17]
13. McLendon, Michael Kenneth, 28 March 10 2009 Kinston, Samson & Geneva, AL  USA
10
6
F A Committed suicide
Also killed four dogs
[18]
14. Starkweather, Charles, 19
Fugate, Caril Ann, 14
Jan. 21–29 1958 Lincoln & Bennet, NE
Douglas, WY
 USA
10
0
FM Also killed two dogs
Starkweather killed a man on Nov. 30, 1957
15. Malagón González, Arnoldo, 22 June 1 1993 Soacha  Colombia
10
?
F Arrested [19]

Asia

Only the first 15 entries are shown here. For the entire list see:Asia

This section contains cases that occurred in Asia.

Not included are school massacres, workplace killings, hate crimes or familicides, which form their own categories.

Perpetrator Date Year Location Country Killed Injured W Additional Notes Ref.
1. Woo Bum-Kon, 27 April 26/27 1982 Uiryeong  South Korea
56
35
F E Committed suicide
2. Feng Wanhai, 26
Jiang Liming, 22
Nov. 18 1995 Zhaodong  China
32
16
F Feng was shot by police
Jiang committed suicide
[20]
3. Toi, Mutsuo, 21 May 21 1938 Kaio  Japan
30
3
FM Committed suicide
4. Tian Mingjian, 31 Sep. 20 1994 Beijing  China
23
30–80
F Shot by police
5. Unknown Soldier April 1950 Nainital  India
22
?
 M [21]
6. Unknown April 1 1978 Dong Doc  Laos
16
60
F E [22]
7. Bales, Robert, 38 March 11 2012 Najeeban & Alkozai  Afghanistan
16
6
FMA Sentenced to life imprisonment
Also killed at least one dog and a cow
[23]
8. Yuan Daizhong, 41 Nov. 18 2004 Yueyang & Xima  China
15
28
 ME Committed suicide [24]
9. Harphul Singh July 23 1930 Tohana  India
15
?
F A Sentenced to death and executed
Had killed five people in the two years prior
[25]
10. Ramesh Sharma, 28 July 23 1983 Mandsaur  India
14
9
F Shot by police
11. Hu Wenhai, 46
Liu Haiwang, 40
Oct. 26 2001 Dayukou  China
14
3
FM Both were sentenced to death and executed [26]
12. Unknown Soldier June 14 1912 Guangzhou Republic of China (1912–49)China
14
2+
F Shot by soldiers [27]
13. Unknown Aug. 1938 Bhatinda  India
12
8
F [28]
14. Shi Yuejun, 35 Sep. 24–29 2006 Liuhe & Tonghua county  China
12
5
 M Sentenced to death and executed
15. Duong Van Mon, 35 Aug. 8 1998 Đắk Lắk Province  Vietnam
12
2–6
 M Sentenced to death [29]

Europe

Only the first 15 entries are shown here. For the entire list see:Europe

This section contains cases that occurred in Europe.

Not included are school massacres, workplace killings, hate crimes or familicides, which form their own categories.

Perpetrator Date Year Location Country Killed Injured W Additional Notes Ref.
1. Grachev, Peter July 31 1925 Ivankovo  Soviet Union
17
3
F A Also killed 12 horses [30]
2. Ryan, Michael Robert, 27 Aug. 19 1987 Hungerford  United Kingdom
16
15
F A Committed suicide
Also shot his dog
3. Borel, Eric, 16 Sep. 23/24 1995 Solliès-Pont & Cuers  France
15
4
FM Committed suicide
4. Leibacher, Friedrich, 57 Sep. 27 2001 Zug   Switzerland
14
18
F E Committed suicide
5. Wagner, Ernst August, 38 Sep. 4 1913 Degerloch &
Mühlhausen/Enz
 German Empire
14
11
FMA Found not guilty by reason of insanity
Also shot two animals
6. Unknown June 10/11 1945 Rouen  France
14
9
FM Arrested [31]
7. Dornier, Christian, 31 July 12 1989 Luxiol  France
14
8
F Found not guilty by reason of insanity
8. Dembsky, Vladimir Feb. 15 1904 Warsaw  Russian Empire
13
10
F Arrested [32]
9. Bogdanović, Ljubiša, 60 April 9 2013 Velika Ivanča  Serbia
13
1
F Committed suicide
10. Bird, Derrick, 52 June 2 2010 Copeland, Cumbria  United Kingdom
12
11
F Committed suicide
11. Marimon Carles, Jose, 26 May 21 1928 Pobla de Ferran  Spain
10
2
F Shot dead [33]
12. Hedin, Tore, 25 Aug. 22 1952 Saxtorp & Hurva  Sweden
9
10–20
 MA Committed suicide
13. Izquierdo, Antonio, 53
Izquierdo, Emilio, 58
Aug. 26 1990 Puerto Hurraco  Spain
9
6–12
F Both were sentenced to 684 years in prison [34]
14. Palić, Vinko, 28 Jan. 1 1993 Zrinski Topolovac  Croatia
9
5–7
F Committed suicide [35]
15. Tranchita, Rosario June 25 1925 Librizzi  Italy
9
4
F Shot dead by his nephew [36]

Oceania and Maritime Southeast Asia

Only the first 15 entries are shown here. For the entire list see:Oceania and Maritime Southeast Asia

This section contains cases that occurred in Oceania and the Maritime Southeast Asia.

Not included are school massacres, workplace killings, hate crimes or familicides, which form their own categories.

Perpetrator Date Year Location Country Killed Injured W Additional Notes Ref.
1. Bryant, Martin John, 28 April 28/29 1996 Port Arthur, TAS  Australia
35
23
FMA Sentenced to 35 consecutive life terms
2. Unknown Siquijor  Philippines
32
?
 M Killed by angry mob [37]
3. Wirjo, 42 April 15 1987 Banjarsari  Indonesia
20
12
 M Committed suicide [38]
4. Formentera, Arsenio Jan. 28 1968 Palompon  Philippines
17
?
 M [39]
5. Hodeng June 17 1879 Kampong Tankulu Dutch East IndiesIndonesia
16
1
Arrested [40]
6. Salazar, Domingo, 42 Oct. 11 1956 San Nicolas  Philippines
16
1
 M Sentenced to death
Killed two unborn children
[41]
7. Unknown Dec. 13 1873 Ternate Dutch East IndiesIndonesia
15
4
 M Killed [42]
8. Basobas, Florentino May 9 1977 Quezon, Palawan  Philippines
15
4
 M Shot dead [43]
9. Antakin May 27 1897 Kaningow North BorneoMalaysia
15
3
 M Shot dead
10. Pusok Anak Ngaik, 28 May 29 1965 Kampong Bukit Merah  Malaysia
14
4
 M [44]
11. Unknown March 1909 Borneo Dutch East IndiesIndonesia
14
?
[45]
12. Unknown Nov. 1935 Gondang Dutch East IndiesIndonesia
13
3
Sentenced to life imprisonment [46]
13. Gray, David Malcolm, 33 Nov. 13/14 1990 Aramoana  New Zealand
13
3
F Shot by police
14. Kalinga Boli May 25 – June 7 1937 Tagan  Philippines
13
?
 M Arrested [47]
15. Two unknown Men June 22 1952 Zamboanga  Philippines
12
14
 M One killed, the other arrested [48]

Workplace killings

Only the first 15 entries are shown here. For the entire list see:Workplace killings

People killing their (former) co-workers; also includes soldiers killing their comrades.

Perpetrator Date Year Location Country Killed Injured W Additional Notes Ref.
1. Sanurip, 36 April 15 1996 Timika Airport IndonesiaIndonesia
16
11
F Sentenced to death [49]
2. Chelakh, Vladislav, 19 May 27/28 2012 Arkankergen frontier post KazakhstanKazakhstan
15
0
F A Sentenced to life imprisonment [50]
3. Sherrill, Patrick Henry, 44 Aug. 20 1986 Edmond, OK United StatesU.S.
14
6
F Committed suicide
4. Hasan, Nidal Malik, 39 Nov. 5 2009 Fort Hood, TX United StatesU.S.
13
32
F Sentenced to death
Killed an unborn child
5. Barton, Mark Orrin, 44 July 27–29 1999 Atlanta, GA United StatesU.S.
12
13
FM Committed suicide
6. Alexis, Aaron, 34 Sep. 16 2013 Washington, D.C. United StatesU.S.
12
3
F Shot by police
7. Leung Ying, 29 Aug. 22 1928 Fairfield, CA United StatesU.S.
11
4
FM Committed suicide while awaiting execution [51]
8. Tazmal Hossein Dec. 1 1914 Naihati British RajIndia
10
11
 M Arrested [52]
9. Kim Won-jo, 25 May 1 1974 Kimpo South KoreaSouth Korea
10
3
F Committed suicide [53]
10. Vaganov, Artur, 22 June 1 1997 Sida AbkhaziaAbkhazia
10
3
F Committed suicide
11. Lee Wei, 41 April 5 1962 Taoyuan TaiwanTaiwan
10
0-2+
F A Arrested [54]
12. Ahmed Gul, 46 April 27 2011 Kabul AfghanistanAfghanistan
9
1–6
F Committed suicide [55]
13. Smith, William Vincent, 19 April 23 1946 LST 172 United StatesU.S.
9
1
F Committed suicide while awaiting trial [56]
14. Unknown July 29 1982 Maputo MozambiqueMozambique
9
?
F [57]
15. Moreño, Jonathan, 31 Jan. 16 2005 Kalibo PhilippinesPhilippines
8
29–33
F Shot by police [58]

School massacres

Only the first 15 entries are shown here. For the entire list see:School massacres
See alsoList of school-related attacks

Massacres at kindergartens, schools and universities

Perpetrator Date Year Location Country Killed Injured W Additional Notes Ref.
1. Kehoe, Andrew Philip, 55 May 18 1927 Bath Township, MI United StatesU.S.
44
58
FME Committed suicide
2. Cho, Seung-Hui, 23
(조승희)
April 16 2007 Blacksburg, VA United StatesU.S.
32
17
F Committed suicide
3. Lanza, Adam Peter, 20 Dec. 14 2012 Newtown, CT United StatesU.S.
27
2
F Committed suicide
4. Hamilton, Thomas Watt, 43 March 13 1996 Dunblane United KingdomU.K.
17
15
F Committed suicide
5. Steinhäuser, Robert, 19 April 26 2002 Erfurt GermanyGermany
16
1
F Committed suicide
6. Whitman, Charles Joseph, 25 Aug. 1 1966 Austin, TX United StatesU.S.
15
32
FM Shot by police
Killed an unborn child
One of the injured later died in 2001
7. Kretschmer, Tim, 17 March 11 2009 Winnenden & Wendlingen GermanyGermany
15
9
F Committed suicide
8. Lépine, Marc, 25 Dec. 6 1989 Montreal, QC CanadaCanada
14
14
FM Committed suicide
9. Harris, Eric David, 18
Klebold, Dylan Bennet, 17
April 20 1999 Littleton, CO United StatesU.S.
13
21
F E Both committed suicide
10. Gadirov, Farda, 28 April 30 2009 Baku AzerbaijanAzerbaijan
12
13
F Committed suicide [59]
11. Menezes de Oliveira, Wellington, 23 April 7 2011 Rio de Janeiro BrazilBrazil
12
12
F Committed suicide
12. Bai Ningyang, 18 May 8 2006 Shiguan ChinaChina
12
5
 MA Sentenced to death
13. Seifert, Walter, 42 June 11 1964 Volkhoven West GermanyWest Germany
10
22
FM Committed suicide
14. Saari, Matti Juhani, 22 Sep. 23 2008 Kauhajoki FinlandFinland
10
1
F A Committed suicide
15. Wu Huanming, 47 May 12 2010 Linchang ChinaChina
9
11
 M Committed suicide [60]

Religious, political or racial crimes

Mass murders, committed by single perpetrators, that have a foremost religious, racial or political background.

Perpetrator Date Year Location Country Killed Injured W Additional Notes Ref.
1. Breivik, Anders Behring, 32 July 22 2011 Oslo & Utøya NorwayNorway
75
241
F E Two more died trying to escape
Sentenced to 21 years plus preventive detention
2. Ibragimov, Ahmed, 43
(Ахмед Ибрагимов)
Oct. 8 1999 Mekenskaya RussiaRussia
34–41
?
F Killed by angry mob
3. Goldstein, Baruch Kappel, 37 Feb. 25 1994 Hebron State of PalestineWest Bank
29–52
70–200
F Killed by angry mob [61]
4. Abbas al-Baqir Abbas, 33 Dec. 8 2000 Jarafa SudanSudan
22–27
31–53
F Shot by police
5. Unknown July 20 2001 Sheshnag IndiaIndia
13–14
14–15
F E Shot by police [62]
6. Unknown Aug. 6 2002 Nunwan IndiaIndia
9
31
F E Shot by police [63]
7. Essex, Mark James Robert, 23 Dec. 31 /
Jan. 7
1972
1973
New Orleans, LA United StatesU.S.
9
13
F A Shot by police
8. Roof, Dylann Storm, 21 (suspect) June 17 2015 Charleston, SC United StatesU.S.
9
1
F Arrested
9. Asadullah
(اسد الله)
March 30 2012 Yahyakhel District AfghanistanAfghanistan
9
0
F P [64]
10. Strydom, Barend Hendrik, 23 Nov. 8/15 1988 De Deur &
Pretoria
South AfricaSouth Africa
8
16
F Sentenced to death plus 30 years [65]
11. Punchi Banda Kandegedera Feb. 25 1936 Colombo British CeylonSri Lanka
8
10
F Sentenced to death [66]
12. Wang Xiwen, 32^ Nov. 17 1980 Handan ChinaChina
7
12
F E Sentenced to death and executed
Also killed two pigs
13. Popper, Ami, 21 May 20 1990 Rishon LeZion IsraelIsrael
7
10–15
F Sentenced to seven consecutive life terms;
later reduced to 40 years in prison
14. Merah, Mohammed, 23 March 11–22 2012 Toulouse & Montauban FranceFrance
7
5
F Shot by police
15. Kariyev, Maksat Kokshkinbaevich, 34
(Максат Кокшкинбаевич Кариев)
Nov. 12 2011 Taraz KazakhstanKazakhstan
7
3
F E Committed suicide [67]
16. Abdul Salaam Sadek Hassouneh, 24
(عبد السلام صادق حسونة)
Jan. 17 2002 Hadera IsraelIsrael
6
14–33
F Killed by angry mob or shot by police [68]
17. Khaled Akar
(خالد آكر)
Nov. 25 1987 Kiryat Shemona IsraelIsrael
6
7
F E Shot by soldiers [69]
18. Page, Wade Michael, 40 Aug. 5 2012 Oak Creek, WI United StatesU.S.
6
3
F Committed suicide
19. Ahmed Jassim Ibrahim, 25
(احمد جاسم ابراهيم)
June 12 2009 Baghdad IraqIraq
5
12
F E Committed suicide or shot dead [70]
20. Mohammed Farhat, 17
(محمد فتحي فرحات)
March 7 2002 Atzmona State of PalestineGaza Strip
5
10–23
F E Shot dead [71]
21. Coulibaly, Amedy, 32 Jan. 7/9 2015 Montrouge & Porte de Vincennes FranceFrance
5
11
F Shot by police
22. Natan-Zada, Eden, 19 Aug. 4 2005 Shfar’am IsraelIsrael
4
9–14
F Killed by angry mob [72]
23. Nel, Johan, 18 Jan. 14 2008 Skierlik South AfricaSouth Africa
4
8
F Sentenced to life imprisonment [73]
24. Stone, Michael, 32 March 16 1988 Belfast United KingdomU.K.
3
68
F E Sentenced to 682 years in prison
25. Ibrahim Mohammed Hasuna, 20
(إبراهيم محمد محمود حسونة)
March 5 2002 Tel Aviv IsraelIsrael 3}}
14–31
FME Shot by police [74]
26. Raed Muhammed al-Rifi, 22 March 17 1992 Jaffa IsraelIsrael
2
19
 M Shot by police [75]
27. Hatem Shweikeh, 24 Nov. 4 2001 Jerusalem IsraelIsrael
2
15–42
F Shot dead [76]
28. Saeed Ibrahim Ramadan, 24
(سعيد إبراهيم رمضان)
Jan. 22 2002 Jerusalem IsraelIsrael
2
14–16
F Shot by police [77]

Domestic violence

Only the first 15 entries are shown here. For the entire list see:Home intruders, List of familicides, familicides in the United States and familicides in Europe.

This section contains cases that could be considered non-public, which means mass murders perpetrated in a domestic environment. The section is divided into two sub-categories; the first encompasses the lists of familicides and contains those incidents where most of the victims were relatives of the perpetrator, while the second, paraphrased as home intruders, contains those cases where the targeted families were not related to the perpetrator.

Perpetrator Date Year Location Country Killed Injured W Additional Notes Ref.
1. Ou Yangpu Jan. 1 1976 Zixing ChinaChina
17
0
 M Committed suicide [78]
2. Simmons, Ronald Gene, 47 Dec. 22–28 1987 Russellville, AR United StatesU.S.
16
4
FM Sentenced to death and executed
3. Mohammad Zaman, 30 Sep. 25 2009 Ghola AfghanistanAfghanistan
15
?
F Committed suicide [79]
4. Unknown Nov. 23 1936 Maropally British RajIndia
14
2
 M Arrested [80]
5. Banks, George Emil, 40 Sep. 25 1982 Wilkes-Barre, PA United StatesU.S.
13
1
F Sentenced to death
6. Liu Aibing, 34 Dec. 12 2009 Yinshanpai ChinaChina
13
1
FMA Sentenced to death and executed [81]
7. Guo Zhongmin, 36 Feb. 18 2003 Yangxiaoxiang ChinaChina
13
0
 M Committed suicide [82]
8. Saeed Qashash, 19 June 10 1998 Amman JordanJordan
12
0
F Sentenced to death and executed [83]
9. Jia Yingmin, 40 Oct. 6 2000 Kunlong ChinaChina
12
0
 M Committed suicide [84]
10. Augusto, Pedro Aug. 1900 Rio de Janeiro BrazilBrazil
12
?
FM Arrested [85]
11. Abbas Khan Sep. 1896 Jabbar British RajIndia
11
2
 M Arrested [86]
12. Andangan Oct. 21 1921 Cotabato PhilippinesPhilippines
11
0
 M Committed suicide [87]
13. Ruppert, James Urban, 40 March 30 1975 Hamilton, OH United StatesU.S.
11
0
F Sentenced to eleven consecutive life terms [88]
14. Jalal Osman Khoja, 40 Dec. 26 2000 Jeddah Saudi ArabiaSaudi Arabia
11
0
F Committed suicide [89]
15. Abdul Emir Khalaf Sabhan Aug. 26 2003 Baghdad IraqIraq
11
0
F Committed suicide [90]

Vehicular manslaughter

This section contains those cases where only vehicles were used to attack people. Since it may be quite difficult to distinguish accidents, or cases of reckless driving from those incidents where the driver, or pilot, had the intention to harm others, only those cases are included where it is clear that the vehicle was applied as a weapon and crashed deliberately into people, other vehicles, or buildings. Also, those cases where a rampage killer used an armed vehicle, such as a tank, or a fighter aircraft, to shoot others are listed here.

Name Date Year Location Country Killed Injured Additional Notes Ref.
1. Unknown Aug. 1993 Kilifi KenyaKenya
18
25
Arrested [91]
2. Li Xianliang, 36
(李献良)
Aug. 1 2010 Nanzuo ChinaChina
17
20–30
Arrested [92]
3. Unknown Oct. 9 1994 Djimenzen HaitiHaiti
14
12
[93]
4. Unknown Dec. 1965 SyriaSyria
14
2+
Arrested [94]
5. Santosh Maruti Mane, 40
(संतोष मारुति माने)
Jan. 25 2012 Pune IndiaIndia
9
27–37
Sentenced to death [95]
6. Khalil Abu Olbeh, 35 Feb. 14 2001 Azor IsraelIsrael
8
21
Sentenced to eight life terms plus 21 years [96]
7. Hepnarová, Olga, 22 July 10 1973 Prague CzechoslovakiaCzechoslovakia
8
12
Sentenced to death and executed
8. Ford, Priscilla Joyce, 51 Nov. 27 1980 Reno, NV United StatesU.S.
7
22
Died while awaiting execution
9. Tates, Karst Roeland, 38 April 30 2009 Apeldoorn NetherlandsNetherlands
7
10
Died in the crash
10. Tian Shengming, 44
(田胜明)
May 28 2012 Zhangjiajie ChinaChina
6
9
Arrested [97]
11. Luo Xiaoji, 34
(骆效计)
Nov. 5 2008 Zhuhai ChinaChina
5
19
Shot by police [98]
12. Crabbe, Douglas John Edwin, 36 Aug. 18 1983 Yulara AustraliaAustralia
5
16
Sentenced to life imprisonment
13. Owens, Rashad Charjuan March 12 2014 Austin, TX United StatesU.S.
4
21
In custody, trial pending
14. Hussam Taysir Dwayat, 32 July 2 2008 Jerusalem IsraelIsrael
3
30–45
Shot by police [99]
15. Unknown Feb. 4 2001 Kampala UgandaUganda
3
21+
[100]
16. Ho Chung-ming, 36 Aug. 30 1964 Taipei TaiwanFormosa
3
20
Sentenced to death [101]
17. Kabolowsky, Robert, 20 July 10 1980 Wantagh, NY United StatesU.S.
3
20
Found not guilty by reason of insanity [102]
18. Ressa, Stephen Michael, 27 Sep. 21 2005 Las Vegas, NV United StatesU.S.
3
11
Sentenced to life imprisonment [103]
19. Nieto Avila, Jose Luis, 56 May 6 2002 San Cristóbal Ecatepec MexicoMexico
2
22
Sentenced to 146 years in prison [104]
20. Parkdel, Eric, 50 May 31 2003 Stockholm SwedenSweden
2
16
Convicted [105]

Grenade amok

This section lists incidents of “grenade amok”, which are mass murders where the perpetrator used only hand grenades or comparable explosive devices, like pipe bombs or dynamite sticks, for the attack. As it is sometimes difficult to distinguish cases of grenade amok from acts of terrorism or gang-related attacks, incidents are only included where there is at least some indication that it was neither committed in the context of a political, ethnic, or religious conflict, nor part of an assault with more than one participating offender.

Name Date Year Location Country Killed Injured Additional Notes Ref.
1. Unknown, 21 Nov. 2 1979 Sakhon Nakhon province ThailandThailand
12
40+
Arrested [106]
2. Ismatov, Bobomurad Feb. 7 1994 Kulyab TajikistanTajikistan
12
28
Committed suicide [107]
3. Unknown Police Officer May 8 1973 Phitsanulok Province ThailandThailand
11
12–21
Killed by the explosion [108]
4. Unknown Soldier, 23 May 1 1993 Nongmasaew ThailandThailand
9
23
Arrested [109]
5. Unknown May 10 1972 ThailandThailand
9
10
Arrested [110]
6. Unknown Soldier, 23 LaosLaos
8
12
Killed by the explosion [111]
7. Unknown Soldier, 35 LaosLaos
7
30
Killed by the explosion [111]
8. Cuellar Beltran, Jorge Alberto Aug. 17 1991 Comasagua El SalvadorEl Salvador
6–8
54–90
[112]
9. Abdullah Salih al-Hajiri Aug. 4 1999 Sana’a YemenYemen
6–7
40–43
Arrested [113]
10. Avraham, Ezra, 19 Feb. 4 1975 Netanya IsraelIsrael
6
26
Arrested [114]
11. Yeong Sik Shin May 18 1968 Andong City South KoreaSouth Korea
5–7
43–52
Sentenced to death [115]
12. David, Ernesto, 28 Dec. 2 1980 Manila PhilippinesPhilippines
5
28–34
Arrested [116]
13. Lotero, Hector Aug. 17 1969 Apartadó ColombiaColombia
5
25
[117]
14. Lacsina, Ederlino L. March 18 1978 Camarines Sur PhilippinesPhilippines
5
14
Arrested [118]
15. Unknown Soldier, 26 1959 LaosLaos
4
20
Arrested [119]
16. Cervantes, Richard, 20 Oct. 12 1996 Poblacion PhilippinesPhilippines
3
15
Arrested [120]
17. Marish Ali Al-Akhram, 30 Aug. 22 2003 Hawth YemenYemen
2
34
Arrested [121]
18. Mohammed Hassan al-Wajeeh, 30
(محمد حسن)
Feb. 2 2008 Sana’a YemenYemen
2
23–25
Sentenced to death [122]
19. Unknown Soldier Dec. 5 1954 Bou Amrane TunisiaTunisia
2
13
Shot by soldiers [123]
20. Jung, Heidrun-Erika, 49 Dec. 24 1996 Frankfurt GermanyGermany
2
13
Killed by the explosion [124]
21. Garcia, Rodolfo, 24 May 10 1969 Maplas PhilippinesPhilippines
2
11
[125]

Other incidents

This section lists mass murders by single perpetrators that do not fit into the upper categories, like arson fires, poisonings, and bombings.
Only cases with at least two people killed are included.

Name Date Year Location Country Killed Injured Additional Notes Ref.
1. Kim Dae-han, 56
(김대한)
Feb. 18 2003 Daegu South KoreaSouth Korea
198
147
Sentenced to life imprisonment for causing the Daegu subway fire
2. Segee, Robert Dale, 14 July 6 1944 Hartford, CT United StatesU.S.
167–169
412–682
Confessed to causing the Hartford circus fire; later recanted [126]
3. Zhang Pilin, 37 May 7 2002 Dalian ChinaChina
111
0
Set fire to the passenger cabin of an airplane; died in the crash
4. Jin Ruchao, 41
(靳如超)
March 16 2001 Shijiazhuang ChinaChina
108
38
Sentenced to death and executed for a bombing [127]
5. Unknown arsonist, 10 Dec. 1 1958 Chicago, IL United StatesU.S.
95
100
Fifth-grade student confessed to causing the Our Lady of the Angels School fire; later recanted
6. González, Julio, 35 March 25 1990 New York City, NY United StatesU.S.
87
6
Convicted of the Happy Land fire; sentenced to 174 twenty-five-year sentences
7. Keith, Alexander, 48 Dec. 11 1875 Bremerhaven German EmpireGerman Reich
81–83
200
Bomber; committed suicide [128]
8. Ma Hongqing, 50
(马宏清)
July 16 2001 Mafang ChinaChina
80–89
98
Sentenced to death and executed [129]
9. Le Duc Tan
(马宏清)
Sep. 15 1974 Phan Rang South VietnamSouth Vietnam
74
0
Died in the plane crash which he caused [130]
10. Nasra Yussef Mohammed al-Enezi, 23 Aug. 15 2009 Jahra KuwaitKuwait
55–57
80–90
Sentenced to death for causing a fatal fire at a wedding
11. Chen Shuizong, 59
(陈水总)
June 7 2013 Xiamen ChinaChina
46
34
Perished in the flames
12. Graham, Jack Gilbert, 23 Nov. 1 1955 Denver, CO United StatesU.S.
44
0
Sentenced to death and executed for the bombing of United Airlines Flight 629
13. Doty, Thomas G., 34 May 22 1962 Unionville, MO United StatesU.S.
44
0
Died in the crash of Continental Airlines Flight 11, which he caused
14. Gonzales, Francisco Paula, 27 May 7 1964 Danville, CA United StatesU.S.
43
0
Died in the crash of Pacific Air Lines Flight 773, which he caused [131]
15. Younes Khayati, 32 Aug. 21 1994 Agadir MoroccoMorocco
43
0
Died in the crash of Royal Air Maroc Flight 630, which he caused
16. Chen Zhengping, 32
(陈正平)
Sep. 15 2002 Nanjing ChinaChina
42
300–400
Sentenced to death and executed for poisoning [132]
17. Burke, David Augustus, 35 Dec. 7 1987 San Luis Obispo, CA United StatesU.S.
42
0
Died in the crash of Pacific Southwest Airlines Flight 1771, which he caused [133]
18. Chiasson, Louis, 64 Dec. 2 1969 Notre-Dame-du-Lac,QC CanadaCanada
40
2
Sentenced to life imprisonment for arson [134]
19. Huang Kefen, 27
(黄可芬)
June 24 1981 Xiamen ChinaChina
39
73
Killed by the explosion [135]
20. Thompson, John, 42 Aug. 16 1980 London United KingdomU.K.
37
23
Sentenced to life imprisonment for arson [136]
21. Li Zhanjin, 34
(刘占金)
March 29 2000 Shajian ChinaChina
36–39
30-50+
Killed by an explosion he caused at a wedding [137]
22. Hansen, Erik Solbakke, 24 Sep. 1 1973 Copenhagen DenmarkDenmark
35
17
Found not guilty by reason of insanity
Killed three other people
[138]
23. Çal, Kadir, 34 April 9 1991 Istanbul TurkeyTurkey
34–36
7–10
Perished in the flames [139]
24. Frank, Julian Andrew, 32 Jan. 6 1960 Bolivia, NC United StatesU.S.
33
0
Died in the crash of National Airlines Flight 2511, which he caused
25. Hermino dos Santos Fernandes, 32 Nov. 29 2013 Bwabwata National Park NamibiaNamibia
33
0
Died in the crash of LAM Mozambique Airlines Flight 470, which he caused
26. Qiu Fengguo, 23
(邱凤国)
Feb. 15 1986 Jilin ChinaChina
32
32
Killed by the explosion [140]
27. Unknown April 22 1980 Saint-Jean-de-Losne FranceFrance
32
6–9
[141]
28. Gao Haiping, 24
(高海平)
July 22 1981 Yangquan ChinaChina
31
127
Killed by the explosion [142]
29. Yu Xiugang, 21 April 14 1988 Yujia ChinaChina
30
18
Killed by the explosion [143]
30. Zhang Yunliang, 62 June 5 2009 Chengdu ChinaChina
27
73
Died in the Chengdu bus fire, which he caused
31. Unknown soldier Feb. 16 1984 Debre Zeyit EthiopiaEthiopia
25–28
10–12
Died [144]
32. Katagiri, Seiji, 35 Feb. 9 1982 Tokyo JapanJapan
24
141
Found not guilty of causing the crash of Japan Airlines Flight 350 by reason of insanity
33. de la Torre, Humberto Diaz, 19 Sep. 4 1982 Los Angeles, CA United StatesU.S.
24
32
Sentenced to 25 consecutive life terms for causing an apartment fire; killed an unborn child [145]
34. Unknown arsonist May 25 1982 Aire-sur-l’Adour FranceFrance
24
?
Attacked a psychiatric center [146]
35. Zhou Wenzhi, 25
(周文志)
June 26 1989 Shanghai ChinaChina
23
39
Killed by the explosion [147]
36. Guay, Albert, 32 Sep. 9 1949 Charlevoix, QC CanadaCanada
23
0
Sentenced to death and executed for bombing a passenger plane
37. Arrendondo, Pedro Oct. 10 1978 Caracas VenezuelaVenezuela
23
?
Arrested [148]
38. Matuska, Szilveszter, 39 Sep. 13 1931 Biatorbágy HungaryHungary
22
120+
Sentenced to death for causing fatal train derailments
39. Durado, Gavino, 48 Sep. 2 1962 Manila PhilippinesPhilippines
21
1+
Arrested [149]
40. Liang Hsin-teng, 51 May 12 1993 Taipei TaiwanTaiwan
20
7
Perished in the flames [150]
41. Álvarez, Juan Manuel, 25 Jan. 26 2005 Los Angeles, CA United StatesU.S.
11
177
Sentenced to life imprisonment for causing the 2005 Glendale train crash
42. Gerdt, Petri Erkki Tapio, 19 Oct. 11 2002 Vantaa FinlandFinland
6
166
Killed in the Myyrmanni bombing, which he caused
43. Blažka, Antonín, 57 Unknown 2013 Frenštát pod Radhoštěm Czech RepublicCzech Republic
6
10
Killed by the explosion he caused [151]
44. Dong Shihou, 29
(董世侯)
April 3 1968 Beijing ChinaChina
4
105
Killed by the explosion [152]
45. Copeland, David, 22 April 17/24/30 1999 London United KingdomU.K.
3
140
Sentenced to 6 concurrent life sentences

Annotation

The W-column gives a basic description of the weapons used in the murders

F – Firearms and other ranged weapons, especially rifles and handguns, but also bows and crossbows, grenade launchers, flamethrowers, or slingshots
M – Melee weapons, like knives, swords, spears, machetes, axes, clubs, rods, stones, or bare hands
O – Any other weapons, such as bombs, hand grenades, Molotov cocktails, poison and poisonous gas, as well as vehicle and arson attacks

A – indicates that an arson attack was the only other weapon used
V – indicates that a vehicle was the only other weapon used
E – indicates that explosives of any sort were the only other weapon used
P – indicates that an anaesthetising or deadly substance of any kind was the only other weapon used (includes poisonous gas)

See also

Bibliography

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rampage_killers

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