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Story 2: Republican Party Presidential Candidates Debate, November 10, 2015, Milwaukee, Wisconsin — Winners: Cruz, Carson, Trump, Paul, Rubio — Losers: Kasich, Bush, Fiorina — Videos

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TRUMP 34.86%  (116,965 votes) 

 

CRUZ 23.78%  (79,797 votes) 

 

PAUL 15.63%  (52,446 votes) 

 

RUBIO 13.96%  (46,849 votes) 

 

CARSON 4.85%  (16,273 votes) 

 

FIORINA 4.32%  (14,484 votes) 

 

KASICH 1.57%  (5,265 votes) 

 

BUSH 1.03%  (3,461 votes) 

 

 

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Fourth GOP debate aftermath: The field seems to have figured out how to fight Donald Trump

(Morry Gash / Associated Press)

The GOP field seems to have figured out how to fight Donald Trump: Belittle him.

Donald Trump has played 2016 titan for months, and most attacks from fellow candidates ended up hurting the attacker. But as Trump fights to maintain his lead, he has appeared more defensive.

The moderators survived.

Republicans complained that prior debates, especially the last one, were filled with too many “gotcha” questions and too much baiting of the candidates to fight one another.

Tuesday’s debate was a sharp contrast, in which the hosts played a mostly deferential role. Moderator Neil Cavuto started by calling out “the elephant in the room,” promising issues would be front and center. “That is the agenda tonight: how each of you plans to make America better tomorrow.”

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The debate moderators mostly stayed out of the way

 (Morry Gash / Associated Press)

(Morry Gash / Associated Press)

Perhaps the winners of the fourth Republican presidential primary debate were not any of the candidates on stage but the people asking the questions.

After blistering GOP reviews of the previous debate, those moderating Tuesday’s match-up in Milwaukee largely succeeded in producing a thoughtful exchange that exposed the differences among the candidates’ style and substance on a range of issues.

“Debates need to focus on the issues, and that goal was accomplished tonight,” said Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus. “Our candidates, not the moderators, were at the center of tonight’s debate, and they were all treated with fairness and respect.”

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Cruz spoke the most this time, by far

 (Morry Gash / Associated Press)

(Morry Gash / Associated Press)

There was less wrangling for control of the floor during this debate, but speaking time still matters, and by that measure, Sen. Ted Cruz came out on top.

Cruz spoke for 13 minutes and 35 seconds — nearly two minutes more than the runner-up, Ohio Gov. John Kasich, according to Politico. Ben Carson clocked in with the least amount of speaking time: 9 minutes and 22 seconds.

Here’s the full list.

Cruz: 13:35

Kasich: 11:51

Trump: 11:19

Fiorina: 11:00

Rubio: 10:20

Paul: 10:06

Bush: 9:50

Carson: 9:22

Donald Trump dominated the clock in the first two debates. He spoke for 10:30 during August’s opening showdown, a full two minutes more than Jeb Bush, who came in second.

In the second debate, which was held in mid-September and lasted three hours, Trump got in 18:47 of speaking time, three minutes more than runner-up Bush.

The tide turned in the third debate, held last month: Carly Fiorina, with 10:32, and Sen. Marco Rubio, with 10:10, held the floor the longest.

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Fear or inspiration? It’s a big choice

In their closing statements, Carly Fiorina and Sen. Ted Cruz each went descriptive, painting pictures of the United States — in very different ways.

Fiorina spoke of a nearly dystopian future she said would take place should Hillary Rodham Clinton win the election. “A Clinton presidency will corrode the character of this nation,” she warned.

Cruz infused his view of America with warmth and possibility. He spoke of the hope and promise his father saw when immigrating from Cuba in the 1950s and said he would steer the nation there again.

Optimism and pessimism? Fear or inspiration? It’s a big choice for campaigns, and not just theirs.

Fact check: Is Trump’s campaign self-funded? Not completely.

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In his closing statement, Donald Trump repeated his frequent claim that his campaign for the presidency is self-funded. In fact, he has raised money from quite a few people: Nearly 74,000 people contributed to the Republican White House hopeful over the summer, and The Times’ Mark Z. Barabak and Michael Finnegan wrote about why.

Rubio scores a hit in foreign policy scrum

 (Morry Gash / Associated Press)

(Morry Gash / Associated Press)

Republicans have long dominated national security politics, but Tuesday’s GOP debate exposed yet more differences between the party’s presidential hopefuls.

Donald Trump had an almost George W. Bush-like moment when he suggested that he knew Russian President Vladimir Putin well because the two had an encounter while taping an episode of “60 Minutes.”

The green-room summit couldn’t help but remind of former President Bush’s insistence that he, too, knew Putin after looking into his eye and getting “a sense of his soul.”

Bush’s brother, former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, tried to flex his credentials on the debate stage by pushing back against the non-interventionist tendencies of some in the party, including two of his opponents, Trump and Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.).

“We’re not going to be the world’s policeman, but we sure as heck have to be the world’s leader,” Bush said.

But Sen. Marco Rubio’s team appeared to be doing victory laps after the segment came to a close. The Florida senator skillfully inserted himself into the exchange and delivered a rapid-fire attack on Putin as nothing but a “gangster” who needs to be countered with strong U.S. leadership.

“Grand slam,” read an email from Rubio’s campaign.

Wait, what is Dodd-Frank?

In the candidates’ discussion of bank bailouts, the Dodd-Frank Act has been named several times.

But the act, passed in 2010, is not what bailed out the nation’s teetering financial institutions.

As Times columnist Michael Hiltzik wrote last year, it was “designed to stem risky banking practices, improve consumer protections on financial products such as mortgages and credit cards, and provide regulators with more authority to deal with troubled big banks.”

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Free enterprise is great. Profits are great. But there have to be some values that underlie it.
Ohio Gov. John Kasich, advocating “ethics lessons” for Wall Street
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The moment that elicited boos from the audience

Here’s one issue where Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton align

 (Scott Olson / Getty Images)

(Scott Olson / Getty Images)

Donald Trump talks often about what a disaster it would be if Hillary Rodham Clinton were to be elected president, but when Tuesday night’s debate turned to the topic of international trade, Trump argued passionately for a position that could have been lifted from Clinton’s talking points.

He warned that the massive Pacific trade pact negotiated by the Obama administration is a bad deal for America because it doesn’t address currency manipulation.

Clinton often returns to currency manipulation as the reason she, too, is opposed to the deal, called the Trans-Pacific Partnership. Efforts to insert a provision clamping down on such manipulation fell short in Congress this year.

“TPP is a horrible deal,” Trump said. “It is a deal that is going to lead to nothing but trouble. It is a deal to allow the Chinese to come in through the back door like they always do.”

Trump had more to say, though using language that Clinton most definitely would not: “It is like Obamacare,” he said of the trade pact. “Nobody read it. They passed it; nobody read it. … We need smart people making the deals. And we don’t have smart people making the deals.”

The 12 nations that have pledged to adopt the deal – agreed on in part to help contain the rise of China – released the text of it last week.

Carson would return U.S. troops to Iraq

 (Scott Olson / Getty Images)

(Scott Olson / Getty Images)

When asked his view about the U.S. troops in Syria and Afghanistan, Dr. Ben Carson said it’s good the troops are there — but if he were rolling out a strategy, he would turn his attention first to Iraq.

“In order to make [terrorists] look like losers, we have to destroy their caliphate,” he said. “Our goal is not to contain them but to destroy them before they destroy us.”

Taking land in Iraq has proved relatively straightforward for the U.S. in the past. The turmoil that followed as the U.S. tried to rebuild the country, however, proved much more difficult to contain.

Here’s why Obamacare probably won’t be repealed on Day One, or any day

 (Joe Raedle / Getty Images)

(Joe Raedle / Getty Images)

Tuesday’s debate brought renewed pledges from the presidential hopefuls that they would repeal the Affordable Care Act immediately upon taking office.

Donald Trump used the TPP discussion to make that pledge. TPP is so big that no one has read it, he said, which is what happened with Obamacare — and look what a mess that is. “Yes, it will be replaced,” Trump said.

While the promise has become something of an article of faith in the GOP, it is increasingly unrealistic, as even many Republican lawmakers and policy experts now concede.

Since the law’s major coverage expansion began in 2014, more than 9 million Americans have gained health insurance through Medicaid or through private insurance marketplaces created by the law.

The nation’s uninsured rate has fallen more rapidly than at any time in at least half a century.

And doctors, hospitals and insurers have invested hundreds of millions of dollars to implement the law, including building up new systems to meet quality standards in the law that are transforming the way many patients get care.

Rolling all this back would generate fierce opposition from millions of Americans and from many states where the law has been largely embraced, including California.

Repeal also would require a new president to come up with an alternative plan, a process that would likely involve difficult trade-offs, potentially messy negotiations with congressional and business leaders, huge disruptions to the existing healthcare system and billions of dollars in new funding.

Thus far, only a handful of GOP candidates have offered a blueprint for what their replacement would look like. And even those have not detailed how they would pay for a replacement.

We might want to point out China is not part of this deal.
Rand Paul, correcting Donald Trump on the Trans-Pacific Partnership deal

Here’s what makes Marco Rubio’s tax plan different from the other Republicans’ proposals

 (Morry Gash / Associated Press)

(Morry Gash / Associated Press)

Rand Paul challenged Marco Rubio on his tax plan Tuesday night, telling Rubio, “You cannot be a conservative if you’re gonna keep promoting new programs you’re not gonna pay for. … Can you be a conservative and be liberal on military spending? Can you be for unlimited military spending?”

Rubio defended his plan as a way to keep the U.S. safe, a direct appeal to the conservative crowd at the theater in Milwaukee.

The Times’ Lisa Mascaro explored how unorthodox Rubio’s tax plan, which includes a large credit for families with children, is among Republican proposals:

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There’s little evidence Obamacare has killed jobs

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Carly Fiorina attacked Obamacare on Tuesday night as a blow to the U.S. economy, particularly small businesses.

“Obamacare is crushing small businesses,” she said. “It is not helping the families it is intended to help.”

But as The Times’ Noam N. Levey reported when Fiorina went on the same line of attack during the last Republican debate, there’s little evidence that President Obama’s landmark healthcare law has destroyed jobs:

Carson’s tax plan would hit homeowners and churches

I want a government really, really small. So small you can barely see it.
Rand Paul

Republicans underscore contrast with Democrats on minimum wage

 (Mark Boster/Los Angeles Times)

(Mark Boster/Los Angeles Times)

On a national day of action for fast-food workers, who walked out of their jobs and demonstrated at large rallies in hundreds of American cities, some Republicans running for president were saying wages are already too great.

“Wages are too high,” said Donald Trump, when asked during Tuesday night’s debate whether he sympathizes with activists demanding the minimum wage be hiked to $15. “We are not going to be able to compete against the world. … We have to leave it the way it is. We just can’t do it.”

It was not a surprising position. Republicans have been out front about their opposition to increasing the minimum wage. But Democrats were surely delighted to see Republicans talk about it on a prominent national stage. All the Democrats running for president want to see a hike to at least $12 an hour, and they return to the issue repeatedly on the campaign trail.

Hillary Rodham Clinton’s campaign made sure her supporters were aware of the discussion. It sent them an email minutes after the Republicans moved on from the minimum-wage issue, quoting what each of the candidates on the stage said.

The Republican candidates warned a wage hike would be disastrous. “If you raise the minimum wage, you are going to make people more expensive than a machine,” Florida Sen. Marco Rubio said. Ben Carson warned that a wage hike would create a surge of joblessness among African Americans.

Only Ohio Gov. John Kasich offered an alternative point of view. He stopped short of saying he supports a wage hike, but he also warned: “Economic theory is fine, but you know what? People need help. … To just look the other way is not acceptable.”

http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/trailguide/la-na-trailguide-11102015-htmlstory.html

GOP debates policy — not personality

By MJ Lee

here were no scathing personal attacks, no sensational name-calling and no furious mud-slinging.

The fourth Republican presidential debate of the campaign season marked a notable shift from the previous forums that were dominated by fireworks fueled by outsized personalities.

The event, hosted by Fox Business, featured plenty of testy exchanges between the candidates on hot-button issues like immigration reform and national security. But the two-hour affair notably lacked the explosive personal confrontations as candidates sought to focus on drawing out their own policy views — and contrasting their profiles against Hillary Clinton.

There was no single dominant performance as in the past when candidates such as Carly Fiorina and Marco Rubio wowed audiences — and swiftly improved their place in the polls. Several candidates, including Rubio and Ted Cruz, were strong on the debate stage on Tuesday. And Jeb Bush, who has struggled in such environments, projected greater confidence, seeming to relish a confrontation with Donald Trump on national security.

READ: Takeaways from the GOP debate

One of the biggest questions heading into the evening was how Ben Carson would address the series of questions raised in recent weeks about his biography. The retired neurosurgeon and political newcomer appeared prepared with a ready quip, as he blasted the media.

Carson’s quip

“First of all, thank you not asking me what I said in the 10th grade,” Carson said to applause and laughter. “I appreciate that.”

He went on: “I have no problem with being vetted. What I do have a problem with is being lied about.”

He accused the press of treating Clinton much more favorably.

“When I look at somebody like Hillary Clinton, who sits there and tells her daughter and a government official that, ‘No, this was a terrorist attack,’ and then tells everybody else that it was a video, where I came from, they called that a lie,” he said.

Carson’s comments came after CNN reported last week that nine childhood friends, classmates and neighbors who grew up with Carson said they had no memory of the anger or violence the candidate has described. Notably, Trump, the GOP’s front-runner who is facing stiff competition from Carson, showed no interest in going after the neurosurgeon — despite delighting in slamming him at campaign events this week.

The debate came at a crucial time in the 2016 race. Similar to Carson, Rubio is under intense scrutiny as his poll numbers have ticked up. But the moderators Tuesday did not bring up the Florida senator’s use of a state Republican Party charge card — an issue that his critics have seized on.

Meanwhile, the struggles of Bush — once viewed as the party’s eventual front-runner but now stuck in the single digits — have created an opening that his peers are jockeying to fill. Bush has delivered underwhelming performances in past debates, and on Tuesday appeared prepared to give punchier responses.

While the event lacked some of the fireworks of previous debates, it did expose fundamental divides on immigration and foreign policy.

READ: Carson’s debate strategy: Calm and cool

Clashing on national security

Bush and Trump butted heads on national security, disagreeing on the role for the U.S. in confronting the rise of ISIS.

“We can’t continue to be the policemen of the world,” said Trump, who has argued that the U.S. should let Russia take the lead in fighting ISIS in Syria.

Bush quickly shot back.

“Donald is wrong on this,” he said. “We are not going to be the world’s policemen, but we sure as heck better be the world’s leader.”

READ: Is Marco Rubio’s Iowa operation strong enough to win?

Carson, meanwhile, struggled when asked to address U.S. presence in Syria, offering a meandering answer.

“Putting the special ops people in there is better than not having them there,” he said about President Barack Obama’s decision to send 50 special operations forces to fight ISIS in Syria. “They’re actually able to guide some of the other things that we’re doing there.”

Immigration reform pitted those with more moderate views such as Bush and Ohio Gov. John Kasich against immigration hardliners like Cruz.

Bush argued that mass deportation of undocumented people currently in the United States is “just not possible and it’s not embracing American values.”

“It would tear communities apart and it would send a signal that we’re not the kind of country America is,” he said.

Cruz appeared energized and aggressive in taking on his rivals. He made the case that following the law is not the same thing as lacking in compassion.

“Every sovereign nation secures its borders and it is not compassionate to say we’re not going to enforce the laws and we’re going to drive down the wages for millions of hard-working American workers,” the senator said.

READ: Rubio’s quip about welders gets torched

Wage debate

Rubio, who had a standout debate performance last month in Boulder, Colorado, kicked off the prime-time showdown by arguing against raising the minimum wage — a popular view among Republicans — and pointing to the success of his own parents despite their humble backgrounds.

“If you raise the minimum wage, you’re going to make people more expensive than a machine,” he said.

Both Trump and Carson appeared to go one step further, saying wages in general were too high.

Carson, the only African-American presidential candidate this cycle, said “high wages” were at least partly to blame for high unemployment among black people.

Trump argued that wages were “too high,” and that raising the minimum wage would hurt economic growth.

Rubio also pressed for stronger vocational training, again seizing a moment to present himself as an advocate for the middle class.

“We need more welders and less philosophers.”

Carson, Trump, Rubio, Cruz and Bush were joined by John Kasich, Carly Fiorina and Rand Paul for the prime-time showdown.

READ: Republican candidates reject $15 minimum wage

Lower-tier candidates

Four lower-tier candidates — Chris Christie, Mike Huckabee, Bobby Jindal and Rick Santorum — kicked off the evening with a one-hour “undercard” debate. Christie and Huckabee had qualified for the main debates in previous gatherings.

Christie, known for his bold style, used the earlier debate to repeatedly slam Clinton — part of a strategy to make the case that he could take on the Democratic front-runner during a general election.

“If you listen to Hillary Clinton,” Christie said, “she believes that she can make decisions for you better than you can make them for yourself.”

The New Jersey governor, whose political fortunes have fallen drastically following the state scandal dubbed “Bridgegate,” also called on Republicans to train their fire on Clinton rather than each other.

“She is the real adversary tonight, and we better stay focused as Republicans on her,” he said. “Hillary Clinton’s coming for your wallet, everybody. Don’t worry about Huckabee or Jindal, worry about her.”

Jindal made a contrasting case, insisting that not just any Republican was capable of taking on Clinton.

“Let’s not just beat Hillary — let’s elect a conservative,” Jindal said, before going after Christie for his record in New Jersey. “Records matter.”

Tempers flared at the media when a moderator asked each of the candidates to name a Democratic member of Congress they admire the most.

“I think this is why people were so frustrated with the last debate, with these kinds of silly questions,” Jindal shot back, adding that he would fire everyone in Washington as president.

The other three candidates declined to engage the question, offering up unrelated answers.

Lindsey Graham and George Pataki did not qualify for either debate.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/10/politics/republican-debate-2015-updates/

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