Pronk Pops Show 36, July 13, 2011: Segment 3: Obama’s Gungate: Operation Fast and Furious–Arming Mexican Drug Cartels and Criminals–Killing American and Mexican Citizens–A Pretext For The Ultimate Aim of Disarming The American People and Repealing the Second Amendment–Department of Justice, Department of Homeland Security, FBI, BATFE, ICE and DEA Coverup and Stonewalling–Call For Special Prosecutor–President Obama and Attorney General Holder Should Be Impeached For Obstruction of Justice–Videos–Updated

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Segment 3: Obama’s Gungate: Operation Fast and Furious–Arming Mexican Drug Cartels and Criminals–Killing American and Mexican Citizens–A Pretext For The Ultimate Aim of Disarming The American People and Repealing the Second Amendment–Department of Justice, Department of Homeland Security, FBI, BATFE, ICE and DEA Coverup and Stonewalling–Call For Special Prosecutor–President Obama and Attorney General Holder Should Be Impeached For Obstruction of Justice–Videos–Updated



Rep. West: Holder Should Resign Over ‘Fast and Furious’

President Obama and Attorney General Holder

BUSTED: Obama and Holder can’t run from “Fast and Furious”!

Obama expresses belief in Second Amendment

Funeral for border agent.

Guns Sold in Secret U.S. Operation Used in Cartel Murder

Whistleblower ATF Agent John Dodson Exposes Deadly “Operation Gunrunner”

“…ATF Senior Special Agent John Dodson says what he was asked to do was beyond belief. An Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms senior agent assigned to the Phoenix office in 2010, Dodson’s job is to stop gun trafficking across the border. Instead, he says he was ordered to sit by and watch it happen. Investigators call the tactic letting guns “walk.” In this case, walking into the hands of criminals who would use them in Mexico and the United States. Dodson’s bosses say that never happened. Now, he’s risking his job to go public. Agent Dodson and other sources say the gun walking strategy was approved all the way up to the Justice Department. The idea was to see where the guns ended up, build a big case and take down a cartel. And it was all kept secret from Mexico. …”

Operation Fast and Furious heats up – Holder, obama caught selling weapons to Mexican Drug Cartels

Sen. Grassley: ‘Fast and Furious’ Scandal Goes ‘Very High Up’ in DOJ

“…Despite warnings from the grass roots of ATF that Operation Fast and Furious was bad policy, higher-ups at the Department of Justice knew about the policy contends Sen. Charles Grassley. The Iowa Republican says way too many people were involved for him to be happy with just one resignation and that a major violation of public trust was committed. …”

Assault Weapons Linked To ATF ‘Fast And Furious’ Gun Smuggling Found In Arizona Crimes

Sen. Chuck Grassley: ATF Director Testifies on Operation Targeting Gun Smugglers

Oversight Reveals New Details on Deady Gunrunner Investigation

Rep. Allen West Calls for Eric Holder’s Removal Over ‘Fast and Furious’

Obstruction Of Justice: Does The Justice Dept Have To Respond To A Congressional Subpoena?

Obama Orders Launched Fast and Furious With Stimulus Funds–A Shovel Ready Project!

“…Project Gun Runner (Fast and Furious) was launched under the orders of President Barack Obama with the knowledge of Attorney General Eric Holder. Deputy Attorney General David Ogden announced the Obama Administration’s new and aggressive ‘comprehensive plan’ on March, 24, 2009. The plan was aimed at disrupting gun trafficking between the United States and Mexico. …”

Note: “Stimulus money” was apparently used to fund Project Gunrunner which includes Operation Fast and Furious! Apparently some of the $10 million was used to fund gun purchases by straw buyers that were purchasing guns for the Mexican drug cartels that lead to the murder of over 140 Mexican citizens including soldiers, government officials and ordinary citizens. This gives new meaning to the term “shovel ready projects”!

Fox News: Involvement of More Obama Administration Agencies in Failed Operation Fast & Furious

Gun Owners of America: AG Nominee Eric Holder is an anti-Second Amendment Activist


Stephen Halbrook with CNN’s Lou Dobbs on Gun Control

Eric Holder Attacking The Second Amendment To Help Mexico?

Holder on 2nd Amendment

Another murder linked to ATF’s “Fast and Furious” op

Holder Lied about ATF Gun Sales Operation, “Fast & Furious” – Alex Jones Tv

Top Mexican Drug Dealer says U.S. GOV gave Them Guns!

FALSE FLAG – Gulf of Tonkin


U.S Government staged False Flag – “OPERATION FAST AND FURIOUS” PART 1

“…One of the kingpins of the infamous Los Zetas drug running gang has told Mexican federal police that the group purchased its weapons directly from U.S. government officials inside America, a revelation that will only serve to heighten suspicions that the Obama administration’s Operation Fast and Furious program was a deliberate attempt to undermine the Second Amendment by stealth.

Under Operation Fast and Furious, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives “Sanctioned the purchase of weapons in U.S. gun shops and tracked the smuggling route to the Mexican border. Reportedly, more than 2,500 firearms were sold to straw buyers who then handed off the weapons to gunrunners under the nose of ATF.” Some of the weapons were later used to kill US Border Patrol agents like Brian Terry.

However, according to the testimony of Rejón Aguilar, one of the original seven members of Los Zetas who was recently captured by police, in some cases Mexican drug gangs did not have to wait until the firearms reached the border — they purchased guns directly from the US government itself inside America.

In an interview with Mexican federal police that was later uploaded to You Tube and translated, Aguilar sensationally blows the whistle on how the Zetas’ weapons were obtained straight from U.S. federal authorities.

“They are bought in the U.S. The buyers (on the U.S. side of the border) have said in the past that sometimes they would acquire them from the U.S. Government itself,” Aguilar told police.

“There were buyers for a time — because they weren’t our people, they were buyers on the other side — telling us that even the American government itself were selling them,” added Aguilar. …”


The Big Lie–90% of The Guns Come From The United States

Sec of State Clinton in Mexico

America, the UN will take your guns away

Obama Pushes Anti-Gun Treaty

ABC’s Jake Tapper Presses White House Press Secretary Jay Carney on Operation Fast & Furious

‘Fast and Furious’ Infuriates Mexico [FOX 7-06-2011]

Gunwalker scandal: CBS investigates ATF gun case

43 Weapons in Phoenix Traffic Stop Linked to ATF’s ‘Fast and Furious’

FALSE FLAG Dobyns The ATF Is Reckless-Corrupt, Lies & Cover-up, ATF & DOJ Attack Truth Tellers

Fox News (Martha McCallum): ATF Attempts to Fire Whistleblower Agent Vince Cefalu


Fired ATF Whistle-Blower Vince Cefalu

Washington Post Blames the NRA for ATF Gun Running Scandal?

ATF Operation Allowed Sale of Weapons to Traffickers, Guns Ended Up in Hands of Mexican Cartels

“Operation Fast and Furious: Reckless Decisions, Tragic Outcomes” Panel 1

“Operation Fast and Furious: Reckless Decisions, Tragic Outcomes.” Panel 2

Operation Fast and Furious: Reckless Decisions, Tragic Outcomes.” Panel 3

U.S. Encouraged Gun Sales to Drug Cartels – Democracy NOW!

2011 NRA Annual Meetings – Ambassador John Bolton – Celebration of American Values Leadership Forum

“Project Gunrunner” drug cartel scandal

Carney: No comment on CBS News investigation into ATF

Obama on “gunwalking” – “Serious mistakes” may have been made

Holder on 2nd Amendment

Eric Holder Attacking The Second Amendment To Help Mexico?

Gun Owners of America: AG Nominee Eric Holder is an anti-Second Amendment Activist


Rush -Eric Holder – Operation Fast And Furious – Allowing Illegal Weapons Into Mexico

ATF Caught Selling Hand Guns to Mexican Drug Cartels – Project Gun Runner a ‘false flag’

Napolitano responds to ATF “gun running” probe

Issa demands info on ATF “gunwalking” scandal from State Dept.

Issa on “gunwalking”: ATF “refusing” to give documents

“…Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.), Chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee told CBS News’ Christopher Scholl why he has subpoenaed documents from the ATF regarding “gunwalking” as a result of their refusal to release information. …”

Issa Grills Attorney General Holder on Operation Fast & Furious and Project Gunrunner

Issa: We Are Investigating What Went Wrong With Project Gunrunner and Operation Fast & Furious

The 2nd Amendment vs. Obama

Obama Pushes Anti-Gun Treaty


Michael Savage – Cass Sunstein is More Dangerous Than Van Jones!!!! – (Aired on September 11, 2009)

Suzanna Gratia Hupp explains meaning of 2nd Amendment!


Penn & Teller on the 2nd Amendment

2A Today for the USA – Defend Your 2nd Amendment Right to Bear Arms


Border War Turns Violent

Mexican Pirates Chasing American Pro Bass Fisherman In American Waters

Border Murder: Pirates Attack American Jet Skiers

Myth: Gun Control Reduces Crime

John Lott: More Guns, Less Crime book interview on CSPAN


Stossel Show – More Guns Less Crime! (Part 1/7)


Stossel Show – More Guns Less Crime! (Part 2/7)

Stossel Show – More Guns Less Crime! (Part 3/7)

Stossel Show – More Guns Less Crime! (Part 4/7)

Stossel Show – More Guns Less Crime! (Part 5/7)

Stossel Show – More Guns Less Crime! (Part 6/7)

Stossel Show – More Guns Less Crime! (Part 7/7)

Ron Paul 2nd amendment

Ron Paul militia guns Switzerland

Why Switzerland Has The Lowest Crime Rate In The World

Sexy Girl Against Gun Control

Background Articles and Videos

Cass Sunstein On The Right To Bear Arms

Larry Grathwohl on Ayers’ plan for American re-education camps and the need to kill millions

False Flag

Gulf of Tonkin: McNamara admits It didn’t happen

What Really Happened at Tonkin Gulf? 60 Minutes opening

Gulf of Tonkin – “War Made Easy”

History Of AK-47

AK-47 Rifle History

The M16 Assault Rifle (Part 1)

The M16 Assault Rifle (Part 2)

The M16 Assault Rifle (Part 3)

The M16 Assault Rifle (Part 4)

The M16 Assault Rifle (Part 5)

Barrett .50 cal M82 Sniper Kill Shot (A MUST WATCH)


Which Was Worse: Watergate or Operation ‘Fast and Furious’?

by AWR Hawkins

“…So for covering up something up, Nixon was crucified by Left: to the point that by the summer of 1974 it became evident the House of Representatives was going to bring up impeachment charges against him. But he nipped those plans in the bud by resigning office on August 9, 1974, and flipping the “V” for victory to the hippies and the war protestors as he boarded the chopper that carried him away from the White House.

No one died during the Watergate break-ins or as a result of Nixon’s cover-up.

Switch gears and jump to 2009, and the ATF’s special operation “Fast and Furious.” An operation with which you’re all familiar by now, where upwards of 2500 guns in Arizona were sold to “straw purchasers” under the assumption that those guns were going to end up in the hands of Mexican cartel members who could then be arrested.

Talk about an embarrassingly ignorant plan.

Jump now to 2011 – of the approximately 2500 guns sold only a few hundred have been recovered and at least one federal agent, Brian Terry, lost his life due to this ludicrous operation.

Talk about a cover-up: this operation was somehow planned and conducted without the full knowledge of the Acting ATF Director, the Justice Department, or President Obama having any knowledge of it. (By “full knowledge” I mean that Acting ATF Director Kenneth Melson says knew about it, but was kept “in the dark” regarding the extent of the operation, and the involvement of other agencies like the FBI and DEA.)

In other news, on July 5th Jack Tapper (ABC News) peppered Obama’s White House Press Secretary with questions about “Fast and Furious” in front of the rest of the press reporters, but the most substantive answer that Jay Carney gave was: “The president takes this very seriously.” (In all fairness to Carney, he’s clueless because Obama keeps him clueless.)

Look folks, this is ridiculous. Where is Chris Matthews? Where is that Keith guy who used to work for MSNBC? Where are all the freaks who wanted to hang George W. Bush in effigy for supposedly-lying about Iraq?

Why are they silent in the face of so great a cover-up? …”


Congress looks into Operation Fast and Furious

“…The only ones seriously looking into Operation Fast and Furious are the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, and the Republican delegation of the Senate Committee on the Judiciary. Three days ago Darrell Issa at House Oversight, and Charles Grassley, Ranking Member at Senate Judiciary, published this open letter to Attorney General Eric Holder. David Codrea, Mike Vanderboegh, Kurt Hofmann, William Lajeunesse (Fox News), and others have all mentioned the most sensational thing that the letter reveals. Namely, that US taxpayers bought many of the guns that the government effectively “threw down” in Mexico. Some of the buyers and “end users” of these weapons were paid DEA and FBI informants. Stimulus money went to buy other weapons.

Kenneth Melson, acting ATF director and intended sacrificial lamb for Operation Fast and Furious, and now a confirmed whistleblower. Photo: BATFE.

But the letter also speaks of cover-up. First, no one told ATF Acting Director Kenneth Melson that he could talk directly to Members of Congress with his own private lawyer present, on his own time. No one, that is, until some House Oversight employees told him that he had that right. Melson accepted the obvious offer at once. He even came on July 4, a legal holiday. A furious Issa reminded Holder of the law that protects Executive Branch employees who want to talk to Congress.

Second, Melson told Issa and Grassley that he reassigned every ATF manager that had any part of Operation Fast and Furious. But the Justice Department forbade him to tell Congress why he had to reassign those people. Here Issa went beyond a mere suggestion and accused Holder flatly of obstruction of Congress.

If his account is accurate, then ATF leadership appears to have been effectively muzzled while the DOJ sent over false denials and buried its head in the sand.

Third, Melson confirmed to Issa and Grassley that the DEA and the FBI also had roles in Operation Fast and Furious. Melson also said that he told two senior DOJ officials about this in April, and then in the middle of June. Why didn’t the DOJ stop this? …”


Editorial: Was Fast And Furious A Gun-Control Plot?

“…Scandal: Rather than a botched attempt to catch criminals, was the ATF program actually an attempt to advance gun-control efforts by an administration that has blamed Mexican violence on easy access to U.S. weapons?

If “Operation Fast and Furious” was merely a botched attempt at law enforcement, why was a supervisor of the operation, David Voth, “jovial, if not, not giddy but just delighted about” marked guns showing up at crime scenes in Mexico, as career Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives agent John Dodson told Rep. Darrell Issa’s House Oversight Committee?

Perhaps because all was going as planned until it was learned that two of the AK-47s recovered at the scene of the fatal shooting of Border Patrol agent Brian Terry in December were bought in ATF’s Operation Fast and Furious. That wasn’t supposed to happen.

“Allowing loads of weapons that we knew to be destined for criminals — this was the plan,” Dodson testified to the panel. “It was so mandated.”

ATF agent Olindo James Casa said that “on several occasions I personally requested to interdict or seize firearms, but I was always ordered to stand down and not to seize the firearms.”

Yet, as we’ve noted, gun-tracking operations stopped at the border. That seems odd if the purpose was to catch gun traffickers and their drug-lord bosses. It makes sense, however, if the real purpose was to perpetuate, in the interests of pursuing the administration’s gun-control agenda, what Bob Owens of Pajamas Media calls the “90% lie.”

Unwilling to guarantee a secure southern border, and as part of a campaign to reinstate an expired assault weapons ban, the administration has charged that much of Mexico’s gun violence is our fault. Both governments have pushed the myth that 90% of weapons confiscated by Mexican authorities originate in the U.S. …”

“…Weapons that originated in foreign countries are not sent to the U.S. for tracing. Neither are weapons of Mexican army deserters or those stolen from armories.

Bill McMahon, ATF deputy assistant director, testified that of 100,000 weapons recovered by Mexican authorities, only 18,000 were made, sold or imported from the U.S. And of those 18,000, just 7,900 came from sales by licensed gun dealers. That’s 8%, not 90%. …”

Operation Fast and Furious should end Holder tenure

“…Watergate cliches though they are, two questions beg to be asked about the exploding Fast and Furious scandal at the U.S. Department of Justice: What did Attorney General Eric Holder know and when did he know it concerning the underlying concept, operational protocols and legal status of the Operation Fast and Furious program in the Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms bureau?

Those questions gained special relevance Wednesday when four ATF agents testified before the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee and squarely contradicted a Feb. 4, 2011, claim by a department spokesman that DOJ did not approve of the program that sanctioned the illegal sale here in America by legitimate gun dealers of assault weapons to representatives of Mexican drug cartels. The idea behind the program was that the hundreds of firearms thus sold would then be traced from specific crimes, thus enabling prosecutions of the individuals involved.

The agents testified that Assistant U.S. Attorney Emory Hurley, a Phoenix-based appointee of President Obama, “orchestrated” Operation Fast and Furious. ATF Phoenix field office supervisor Peter Forcelli, for example, told the committee: “I have read documents that indicate that his boss, U.S. Attorney Dennis Burke, also agreed with the direction of the case.” That direction was established sometime after Obama was inaugurated in 2009 when Phoenix ATF agents, breaking with long-established agency practice, were ordered to monitor, but not stop, gun sales to suspected gun traffickers. The agents testified that Phoenix ATF supervisor David Voth “was jovial, if not, not giddy, but just delighted” when Fast and Furious guns were subsequently recovered at multiple Mexican drug busts. And emails released Thursday by Rep. Darrell Issa,R-Calif., revealed that acting director Kenneth Melson even arranged to watch live feeds from ATF cameras in gun stores being used by the program while sitting at his desk.

But delight turned to devastation on Dec. 14, 2010 when two Fast and Furious rifles were found at the scene of Border Agent Brian Terry’s murder approximately 18 miles inside the U.S. border with Mexico in the Arizona desert. The program ended the next day. Special Agent Larry Alt told the committee that Terry’s death was the entirely foreseeable result of Operation Fast and Furious: “You can’t allow thousands of guns to go south of the border without an expectation that they are going to be recovered eventually in crimes and people are going to die.” …”

Read more at the Washington Examiner:



Obama Takes ATF Gun-Running Operation ‘Very Seriously,’ Spokesman Says

Wednesday, July 06, 2011
By Fred Lucas

“…As part of “Operation Fast and Furious,” the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives knowingly allowed some 2,000 guns purchased in the U.S. to flow to Mexican criminals – to see where they would end up. But ATF lost track of many of the weapons. Two of the “straw-purchased” guns were later found in Arizona, at the scene of a U.S. Border Patrol agent’s murder in December.

On Tuesday, Carney declined to answer whether ATF Acting Director Kenneth Melson would testify about Operation Fast and Furious to Congress. A congressional oversight report indicated that people at the “highest levels” of the Justice Department knew about it.

Jake Tapper of ABC News asked Carney about the Fast and Furious program: “I know that there’s this investigation going on internally — weapons from the Fast and Furious program are now showing up in the United States attached to criminal transactions. The ABC station in Phoenix last week reported on several of these weapons from Fast and Furious turning up. How come we know so little — the public knows so little about this program? And what is the administration doing to get to the bottom of these weapons, which are now showing up in crimes in the United States?” …”

Scandal Grows: FBI, DEA Involved With Operation Fast and Furious

“…Yesterday, Acting ATF Director Kenneth Melson answered questions from Rep. Darrell Issa and Senator Charles Grassley surrounding Operation Fast and Furious. Melson voluntarily participated in the interview and appeared with personal counsel, meaning although the Justice Department has prohibited Melson to testify before Congress on behalf of the DOJ about the scandal, he can in fact come forward with information as an individual informant outside of the DOJ and separate from DOJ interests.

In a letter sent to Attorney General Eric Holder, Issa and Grassley expressed disappointment in the DOJ limiting and controlling Melson’s communication and interaction with Congress surrounding the scandal but called the information Melson presented yesterday “extremely helpful,” to the investigation.

Melson revealed the scope of Operation Fast and Furious reaches far beyond ATF and the Justice Department. He said the FBI, DEA (Drug Enforcement Administration) and other agencies were heavily involved.

We have very real indications from several sources that some of the gun trafficking “higher-ups” that the ATF sought to identify were already known to other agencies and may even have been paid as informants. The Acting Director said that ATF was kept in the dark about certain activities of other agencies, including DEA and FBI. Mr.Melson said that he learned from ATF agents in the field that information obtained by these agencies could have had a material impact on the Fast and Furious investigation as far back as late 2009 or early 2010. After learning about the possible role of DEA and FBI, he testified that he reported this information in April 2011 to the Acting Inspector General and directly to then-Acting Deputy Attorney General James Cole on June 16, 2011.

According to the letter, the Justice Department continues to obstruct the independent House Oversight Committee Investigation:
The evidence we have gathered raises the disturbing possibility that the Justice Department not only allowed criminals to smuggle weapons but that taxpayer dollars from other agencies may have financed those engaging in such activities. While this is preliminary information, we must find out if there is any truth to it. According to Acting Director Melson, he became aware of this startling possibility only after the murder of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry and the indictments of the straw purchasers, which we now know were substantially delayed by the u.s. Attorney’s Office and Main Justice.

It is one thing to argue that the ends justify the means in an attempt to defend a policy that puts building a big case ahead of stopping known criminals from getting guns. Yet it is a much more serious matter to conceal from Congress the possible involvement of other agencies in identifying and maybe even working with the same criminals that Operation Fast and Furious was trying to identify. If this information is accurate, then the whole misguided operation might have been cut short if not for catastrophic failures to share key information. If agencies within the same Department, co-located at the same facilities, had simply communicated with one another, then ATF might have known that gun trafficking “higher-ups” had been already identified. This raises new and serious questions about the role of DEA, FBI, the United States Attorney’s Office in Arizona, and Main Justice in coordinating this effort.

We hope that the Department will take a much more candid and forthcoming approach in addressing these very serious matters with the Committees. If other important fact witnesses like Mr. Melson have a desire to communicate directly with the Committees they should be informed that they are free to do so. They should also be notified that if they are represented by personal counsel, they may appear with personal counsel rather than with Department lawyers …”

Federal ATF chief said to resist pressure to step down

Kenneth Melson of the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms faces controversy over the agency’s surveillance program that allowed U.S. guns into Mexico. He is said to be eager to testify to Congress.

By Richard A. Serrano

“…Kenneth E. Melson, who has run the bureau for two years, is reportedly eager to testify to Congress about the extent of his and other officials’ involvement in the operation, code-named Fast and Furious.

Melson does not want to be “the fall guy” for the program, under which ATF agents allowed straw purchasers to acquire more than 1,700 AK-47s and other high-powered rifles from Arizona gun dealers, the sources said. The idea was to track the guns to drug cartel leaders. But that goal proved elusive, and the guns turned up at shootings in Mexico, as well as at the slaying in Arizona of a U.S. Border Patrol agent in December.

“He is saying he won’t go,” said one source close to the situation, who asked for anonymity because high-level discussions with Melson remained fluid. “He has told them, ‘I’m not going to be the fall guy on this.’ ”

Added a second source, who also requested anonymity: “He’s resisting. He does not want to go.”

Melson has an open invitation to appear on Capitol Hill. So far, he has not been given Justice Department approval to appear before Congress.

This week, Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Vista), chairman of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, said he hoped that Melson would give a full accounting of how the gun operation was conceived and carried out. He also said Melson should resign, and that other senior leaders at ATF and the Justice Department should be held accountable as well.

Sen. Charles E. Grassley (R-Iowa), ranking member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, also is awaiting answers from Melson, and cautioned this week that even if the acting director stepped down, it “would be, by no means, the end of our inquiry.” …”

GOA’s Larry Pratt: ATF Allows Flow of Guns Into Mexico! – Alex Jones Tv 1/2

GOA’s Larry Pratt: ATF Allows Flow of Guns Into Mexico! – Alex Jones Tv 2/2

“…– Arizona Firearms found at murder scene of American Border Patrol agent
March 2, 2011

Scandal along the U.S. — Mexico border continues to plague the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), and is raising eyebrows on Capitol Hill.

When Border Patrol agent Brian Terry was shot and mortally wounded in a gun battle about 10 miles from the Mexico border in Arizona in December, 2010, it appeared to be yet another example of Mexico drug gang violence spilling over the border. But as more and more information from the crime scene leaked out, disturbing evidence also pointed to serious wrongdoing at the ATF.

Since 2005, the ATF has been involved in an initiative called “Project Gunrunner.”

Under this plan, ATF was to trace the flow of guns supposedly trafficked by straw purchasers in the U.S. to across the border into Mexico. When concerned firearms dealers, fearing the guns were being sent into Mexico, contacted ATF, they were instructed to proceed with the questionable and illegal sales to suspected straw buyers.

The mismanagement and botched oversight of “Gunrunner” has led to what has become known as the “Gunwalker” scandal.

According to current and former agents, perhaps as many as 3,000 firearms were allowed by ATF to “walk” across the border into Mexico. But the firearms—along with any hope of tracking them to higher level criminals—disappeared once the guns crossed the border. The ATF literally lost track of the weapons.

Two of these guns, however, turned up at the scene of Brian Terry’s murder. They were traced to an American gun store that had been cooperating with the Phoenix ATF office as part of Project Gunrunner.

The information about Agent Terry’s murder and the potential role played by Gunrunner came to the attention of Iowa Senator Charles Grassley, who sent a letter of inquiry to Acting ATF Director Ken Melson. In the letter, Sen. Grassley wrote that the Judiciary Committee, of which he is the ranking member, “received numerous allegations” that the ATF authorized the sale of hundreds of firearms to suspected illegal buyers, “who then allegedly transported these weapons throughout the southwestern border area and into Mexico….Two of the weapons were then allegedly used in a firefight…killing CPB Agent Brian Terry.”

Senator Grassley went on to quote from a scathing Department of Justice review of Project Gunrunner, which found that ATF focused on low level, individual straw buyers “instead of targeting higher-level traffickers and smugglers.”

Sen. Grassley clearly ruffled some feathers in the agency. When an agent in the ATF’s Phoenix office spoke to someone on Grassley’s staff, that agent was accused by a superior of “misconduct related to his contacts with the Senate Judiciary Committee.” The Senator had to remind the agency of federal whistleblower protections and that agents “have the rights to be free from fear of retaliation or reprisal” for speaking with members of Congress. “Rather than focusing on retaliating against whistleblowers, the ATF’s sole focus should be on finding and disclosing the truth as soon as possible.” …”

Project Gunrunner

“…Project Gunrunner is an operation of the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) intended to stem the flow of firearms into Mexico, in an attempt to deprive the Mexican drug cartels of weapons.[1] However, multiple agents within the ATF have publicly stated that they were ordered to allow weapons to flow south of the border in order to “get evidence to take down a drug cartel”.


ATF began Project Gunrunner as a pilot project in Laredo, Texas, in 2005 and expanded it as a national initiative in 2006. Project Gunrunner is also part of the Department’s broader Southwest Border Initiative, which seeks to reduce cross-border drug and firearms trafficking and the high level of violence associated with these activities on both sides of the border.[2]

ATF has determined that the Mexican cartels have become the leading gun trafficking organizations operating in the southwest U.S. and is working in collaboration with other agencies and the Government of Mexico to expand the eTrace firearm tracing software system.[3] eTrace provides web based access to ATF’s Firearms Tracing System to allow law enforcement both domestically and internationally the ability to trace firearms encountered in connection with a criminal investigation to the first recorded purchaser – who may have innocently sold the gun years ago. eTrace allows law enforcement to access their trace results directly (name and address of first purchaser) and offers the ability to generate statistical reports to analyze their trace data to estimate firearms trafficking trends or patterns.

ATF announced a goal to deploy eTrace software to all thirty-one states within the Republic of Mexico. As part of eTrace expansion, ATF continues to provide training to Mexican and Central American countries to ensure that the technology is utilized to a greater extent.[3] Colombia and Mexico were provided with their own in-country tracing centers with full access to ATF firearm registration records. In Colombia, a joint ATF-CNP Center for Anti-Explosives Information and Firearms Tracing (CIARA) opened on December 6, 2006.[4] In Mexico, The National Center for Information, Analysis and Planning in order to Fight Crime (CENAPI) was established in 2003. ATF states these are models for planned future tracing centers throughout Central and South America and the Caribbean Basin.[5] In December, 2009, ATF announced deployment of a Spanish version of eTrace to Mexico, Guatemala and Costa Rica. A planned second phase will release the software to all Spanish-speaking countries with agreements with ATF. In June 2011 congress opened an investigation into project gunrunner against the ATF, as some ATF agents have come forward stating that top heads in ATFE and the Department of Justice instructed the agents to encourage gun stores in the U.S. to sell assault-style weapons to Mexican firearm traffickers. …”


By early 2009, Project Gunrunner had resulted in approximately 650 cases by ATF, in which more than 1,400 defendants were referred for prosecution in federal and state courts and more than 12,000 firearms were involved.[10]

According to the U.S. Government Accountability Office (GAO), during FY 2007 and 2008, ATF conducted twelve eTrace training sessions for Mexican police (over 961 Mexican police officers) in several Mexican cities, including the same cities where corrupt police were disarmed and arrested: Mexico City, Tijuana, Nuevo Laredo, and Matamoros.[11] Despite the GAO report, ATF now claims (October 2010) only about 20 people have been trained to use eTrace in Mexico.[12] This discrepancy has not been explained. With the assistance of ATF’s Mexico City office and the Narcotics Affairs Section of the U.S. Department of State, ATF anticipates conducting numerous additional courses in these subject areas in 2009.[10] According to Mexican government officials, corruption pervades all levels of Mexican law enforcement—federal, state, and local.[13]

ATF reported they analyzed firearms seizures in Mexico from FY 2005-07 and identified the following weapons most commonly used by drug traffickers. [14] However this conclusion is seriously flawed and not supported by ATF statistics, which only includes guns successfully traced and these are not necessarily connected to drug traffickers. The number of trace requests from Mexico has increased since FY 2006, but most seized guns in Mexico have not been traced.[15]

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  • .38 Super pistols
  • 5.7mm pistols
  • .45-caliber pistols
  • AR-15 type rifles
  • AK-47 type rifles


ATF Project Gunrunner has a stated official objective to stop the sale and export of guns from the United States into Mexico in order to deny Mexican drug cartels the firearms considered “tools of the trade”.[16] However, since February 2008 under Project Gunrunner, Operations “Fast and Furious”, “Too Hot to Handle”, “Wide Receiver” and others (all together satirically dubbed “Project Gunwalker”), have done the opposite by ATF permitting, encouraging and facilitating ‘straw purchase’ firearm sales to traffickers, and allowing the guns to ‘walk’ and be transported to Mexico. This has resulted in considerable controversy.[17][18][19]

Senator Charles E. Grassley (R-IA) initiated an investigation with a letter to ATF on 27 January 2011,[20] and again on 31 January 2011. ATF responded through the Department of Justice by denying all allegations.[21] Senator Grassley responded with specific documentation supporting the allegations in letters to U.S. Attorney General Holder on 9 Feb 2011[22] and 16 Feb 2011.[23] ATF refused to answer specific questions in a formal briefing to Senator Grassley on 10 Feb 2011.

Indictments filed in federal court, documentation obtained by Senator Grassley, and statements of ATF agents obtained by Senator Grassley and CBS News, show that the ATF Phoenix Field Division allowed and facilitated the sale of over 2,500 firearms (AK-47 rifles, FN 5.7mm pistols, AK-47 pistols, and .50 caliber rifles) in ‘straw man purchases’ destined for Mexico. [17][24][25][26][27][28]According to ATF agents, Mexican officials were not notified, and ATF agents operating in Mexico were instructed not to alert Mexican authorities about the operation.[29] Some ATF agents and supervisors strongly objected, and gun dealers (who were cooperating with ATF) protested the sales, but were asked by ATF to complete the transactions to elucidate the supply chain and gather intelligence.[17][30] However, there are accusations that the ATF was attempting to boost statistics to ‘prove’ that American guns are arming the Mexican drug cartels and to further budget and political objectives.[31]

Many of these same guns are being recovered from crime scenes in Arizona[32] and throughout Mexico,[33] which is artificially inflating ATF’s eTrace statistics of U.S. origin guns seized in Mexico. One specific gun, recovered at the scene, is alleged to be the weapon used to murder Customs and Border Protection Agent Brian Terry on December 14, 2010.[34] …”

Operation Fast & Furious

“…Operation Fast & Furious is the name of an illegal gun trafficking sting run by the United States Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF). It started in 2009 and ended in late 2010 shortly after the death of Brian Terry, a US Border Patrol Agent and has since become the subject of controversy and a U.S. congressional investigation. During the operation, at least 2,000 guns were released and tracked by ATF agents into Mexico, many of which have been linked to at least 150 shootings. Of the 2,000 guns knowingly released by ATF agents, only 600 have been recovered by officials. The remaining 1,400 guns have not been recovered and possibly remain in the hands of drug gangs.


On December 14, 2010, while trying to apprehend a group of armed suspects, United States Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry was gunned down in Rio Rico, Arizona. Upon investigation, it was discovered that many ATF agents monitoring the U.S.-Mexico border had apprehended gun smugglers attempting to cross over into Mexico with untold numbers of guns, but would be told by their superiors to stand down and let the smugglers pass.[1]

Representative Darrell Issa, chairman of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, held hearings on this in June 2011.[2] One ATF agent testified that “I cannot begin to think of how the risk of letting guns fall into the hands of known criminals could possibly advance any legitimate law enforcement interest.”[3]

A gun used by drug cartel criminals to shoot at a Mexican military helicopter, forcing it to land, was found to have been one allowed into Mexico by the ATF.[4]

Two AK-47s sold as part of Operation Fast and Furious and recovered by Mexican police were determined to have been used by members of the Sinaloa cartel in the high-profile kidnapping of attorney Mario González Rodríguez.[5]

ATF whistleblower Agent Vince Cefalu has been served with termination papers, in a move by the agency he described as politically motivated.[6]

Congressional Investigation

This program is being investigated jointly by the Senate Judiciary Committee and the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee. So far they have found that:[7]

  • BATFE knowingly allowed as many as 2,500 firearms to be sold illegally to known or suspected straw purchasers. One of those purchasers accounted for over 700 illegal guns.
  • BATFE ordered its agents working the program not to arrest illegal gun buyers or to interdict thousands of guns that were allowed to “walk” into criminal hands.
  • Senior BATFE officials in Washington were regularly briefed on the operation and approved of the tactics employed.
  • BATFE agents who opposed the operation and who raised objections were told to “get with the program” and threatened with job retaliation if they continued their opposition.

The initial findings have been detailed in a joint staff report prepared by the staffs of Chairman Darrell Issa of the House Committee and Ranking Member Charles Grassley of the Senate Committee. The report details the testimony of whistleblower agents who provided information about the operation to the Committees.

The day after the report was released, the House Committee held a hearing at which Senate Judiciary Committee Ranking Member Grassley testified, along with a second panel of witnesses, including the family of murdered Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry and three of the whistleblowers from BATFE. Senator Grassley’s written testimony included a set of supporting documents and a slide presentation outlining what is known about the operation so far. The hearing also included a third session with the head of the Justice Department’s Office of Legislative Affairs about its failure to provide complete and truthful answers to Congressional inquires about the operation. …”


On the Second Amendment, Don’t Believe Obama

“…The presidential primary season is finally over, and it is now time for gun owners to take a careful look at just where nominee Barack Obama stands on issues related to the Second Amendment. During the primaries, Obama tried to hide behind vague statements of support for “sportsmen” or unfounded claims of general support for the right to keep and bear arms.

But his real record, based on votes taken, political associations, and long standing positions, shows that Barack Obama is a serious threat to Second Amendment liberties.Don’t listen to his campaign rhetoric!Look instead to what he has said and done during his entire political career.


FACT:Barack Obama opposes four of the five Supreme Court justices who affirmed an individual right to keep and bear arms. He voted against the confirmation of Alito and Roberts and he has stated he would not have appointed Thomas or Scalia.17

FACT: Barack Obama voted for an Illinois State Senate bill to ban and confiscate “assault weapons,” but the bill was so poorly crafted, it would have also banned most semi-auto and single and double barrel shotguns commonly used by sportsmen.18

FACT:Barack Obama voted to allow reckless lawsuits designed to bankrupt the firearms industry.1

FACT:Barack Obama wants to re-impose the failed and discredited Clinton Gun Ban.15

FACT:Barack Obama voted to ban almost all rifle ammunition commonly used for hunting and sport shooting.3

FACT:Barack Obama has endorsed a 500% increase in the federal excise tax on firearms and ammunition.9

FACT:Barack Obama has endorsed a complete ban on handgun ownership.2

FACT:Barack Obama supports local gun bans in Chicago, Washington, D.C., and other cities.4

FACT:Barack Obama voted to uphold local gun bans and the criminal prosecution of people who use firearms in self-defense.5

FACT:Barack Obama supports gun owner licensing and gun registration.6

FACT:Barack Obama refused to sign a friend-of-the-court Brief in support of individual Second Amendment rights in the Heller case.

FACT:Barack Obama opposes Right to Carry laws.7

FACT:Barack Obama was a member of the Board of Directors of the Joyce Foundation, the leading source of funds for anti-gun organizations and “research.”8

FACT:Barack Obama supported a proposal to ban gun stores within 5 miles of a school or park, which would eliminate almost every gun store in America.9

FACT:Barack Obama voted not to notify gun owners when the state of Illinois did records searches on them.10 …”

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